The question of why there are more women in mathematics than philosophy may be more or less due to there being concerted efforts to encourage women into mathematics and no effort has been made for philosophy (as it is not exactly as highly regarded as mathematics in the public eye). — I like sushi

Which applies to men as well. — Hillary

Not really. The efforts are to get more women/people of color into mathematics. Already too many white guys.

I care! Is it the other way round? — Hillary

What is "true"?

First Incompleteness Theorem: "Any consistent formal system F within which a certain amount of elementary arithmetic can be carried out is incomplete; i.e., there are statements of the language of F which can neither be proved nor disproved in F." (Raatikainen 2015)

Wiki

Like Gödel showed us, every basic system of logic will generate true statements that can’t be justified within the generating system. — ucarr

Not quite, but who cares?

Complex time — ucarr

You want "complex time"? Here's an example: T=t+ib(t). A ballistic missile defines a trajectory that has the following real part - the normal time in flight = t. For the imaginary part, suppose the missile were to hit an imaginary wall at normal time t and drop to the ground. The normal time it takes to drop to the ground is b(t). :cool:

The question of why there are more women in mathematics than philosophy may be more or less due to there being concerted efforts to encourage women into mathematics and no effort has been made for philosophy (as it is not exactly as highly regarded as mathematics in the public eye). — I like sushi

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Chief Premise – universe is the limit of system — ucarr

A material object = motion without time — ucarr

Space = motion without time — ucarr

No lack of imagination here. Limit of what system? However, these are metaphysical hypotheses that have little bearing on physical reality.

(The 3 extra dimensions being perpendicular to large 3 dimensions). — Hillary

How you do dat? :nerd:

Universe without a beginning means a universe with infinite past events, which means there is no space for new event to add up to infinite number of events. — SpaceDweller

I'm still chewing on this. . . . . :roll:

with some reports saying philosophy is more overwhelmingly male than mathematics. — Paulm12

By 2010 about 30% of mathematics PhDs were women. I would guess that now there may be 35% or so. I'll bet there are far fewer in philosophy.

A look at Harvard's philosophy faculty, including affiliated and post-doctoral: 22.2% women. Tenured faculty: 28.5% women.

As for BA and MA degrees I don't know what sort of work they end up doing. Male or female.

You have a naive picture of academic climate. Mostly it's thunder, rain, and storm, with occasional sunshine. — Hillary

Silly boy. I spent thirty enjoyable years in that environment. But admittedly I was not locking intellectual horns with Nobel laureates.

Lucifer - that perennially mortifying, theologically disconcerting - and hence well-glossed-over - morsel of god - is both Prince of Darkness and Bringer of Light — ZzzoneiroCosm

It's speculated the the Jews of the time period of Nebuchadnezzar sarcastically referred to him as "Lucifer", one who thought so highly of himself that the sun rose because of him: the Bringer of Light.

At which point Lucifer became synonymous with Satan is possibly a mystery.

No, the independent thinker just produces bollocky hogwash that he thinks "has scientific grounds", but is probably neither science nor philosophy and probably nothing remotely noteworthy. — Tobias

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One important aspect of academia is that it is a social environment in which researchers converse with one another, sharpening arguments and discarding mistakes. Usually.

Proofs of God are deductive because one has to start already believing God exists. — Jackson

So, if one begins an argument by assuming what is to be proved, this implies that argument is "deductive"? A new and pathetic low on TPF. :roll:

Hegel brought this to my attention — Jackson

My God, man! What else did Hegel divulge to you?

Kurt Gödel, no less, was convinced there was something to the ontological argument. He, I was led to understand, developed his own version of it. Google for more! — Agent Smith

A great math guy but something of a nut case toward the end.

This thread is like a time travel back to the scholasticism of the 13th century using quantum theory to revive that ancient nonsense. String theory vs angels on the head of a pin. What a waste of the digital resources. :roll:

Ref: the Philosophy is Pointless . . . thread.

Present-dynamism => Frequency x Becoming (Space x Time) — Takso

Well, that certainly clarifies the issue. :roll:

You intentionally avoid the aesthetics of physical movement. To sit and stare at paintings or sculptures or listen to music while in a recliner, in the long run seems boring. But I suppose there are those who enter some kind of zone of contemplation, pleasing and seductive.

As you watch a skilled gymnast you become active in a sense, and the gymnast experiences a kinaesthetic pleasure from performing.

A problem with non-paradoxical travel to the past to simply witness an event is with the definition of "witness". Does that imply the reception of photon waves from the earlier time? In which case there would have been an actual physical change at that time. Could there be a way of witnessing that would not disturb the physical setting at a particular instant? Since there appears to be time symmetry at the quantum level this might not be a problem.

I am an artist, a very good artist, well known for my stoneware. — Ken Edwards

Yes indeed!

Ken Edwards

All processes are reversible on the small level — Hillary

In the broad river of time there might be tiny eddies where momentarily particles of reality circle before being caught up in the forward momentum.

Gnight! — Hillary

(I enjoyed three seasons of a crime series produced in Holland on Netflix)

Time reversal in physics formulae is often touted as an indication that processes might run backwards in time, but I suspect the interchangeability of + or - signs are just mathematical artifacts.

Obvious in the sense of obviously true or obviously problematic? — Joshs

Former, IMHO. :smile:

Husserl, Heidegger, Derrida, Deleuze and Bergson have shown in different ways that a quantifiable, mathematizable nature presupposes the kind of time which consists of self-presences transitioning from future to present to past in sequential movement (existing ‘in' time) — Joshs

Exemplars of the obvious.

I'm not sure if you are serious here... :chin: — Hillary

I can physics babble as well as anyone here if I put my mind to it. :wink:

Best wishes

Haim Harari — Hillary

:cheer:

lol....that is not what Hillary means by the term agency... — Nickolasgaspar

Particles possess charge, the agencies that couple to virtual fields by means of which they interact. — Hillary

???

What if our faces were on our back? — Hillary

Scientific speculation, philosophical even, is always welcome. My own suspicion is that time moves obliquely according to a functional operator and we experience only a projection of it in our spacetime geometry. By generating a computer time-field it may be possible to break through.

Time dilation might be explained by a shift in the time-angle created by velocity.

I can see only a white page in the link — Hillary

Agency in Physics
Carlo Rovelli

Between the extremes - Dems: print more money and give it away, do away with borders - Reps: pray that women will not have the right to abortion - there must be a middle way.

There is agency behind physical phenomena. — Hillary

Yes, there are agencies behind physical phenomena, but not the sort of agencies normally discussed in philosophy in which something resembling consciousness exists. Regarding "action" as defined in physics, e.g. Oxford Lang. :

action or intervention, especially such as to produce a particular effect

Agency in Physics

A lot of "what is going on" seems very "edgy" which is to say, not highly understandable, probably not widely supported. Four year olds switching genders and reactionaries who want to see women back in the kitchen in heels like 1950s advertisements, are both "far out". Left and Right just seem irrelevant terms for such of this (crap). — Bitter Crank

:up: Bizarre times indeed.

I'm currently reading a children's book on philosophy — Agent Smith

Post a few excerpts please. Looks interesting. :chin:

Kant writes paragraph long sentences — Jackson

There was a famous novelist who wrote this way in the 1960s I think. Can't recall is name.

What paves the road to mathematical competence is the removal of critical thoughts. — Metaphysician Undercover

At times I wish I were still teaching so I could take jewels like this into the classroom. :cool:

Thanks for your thoughts. Always interesting and provocative. One of the major tasks in the early grades is to develop critical and precise thinking skills. This paves the road to mathematical competence. How to do this across cultural lines is probably a challenge.

Do not write sentences so long they become paragraphs. Be succinct and smile at the reader.

My first few years as an asst prof I taught college algebra out of a textbook by Vance, I think. It incorporated the "New Math", an idea that had mostly expired by then. I tried to maintain a level of enthusiasm, but it was heavy going as I dealt with simple rules like a+0=a. The thrust of this pedagogical experiment was to introduce abstract underpinnings for the rote procedures previously championed. I suspect the NM did more to separate the superior math talented from those having average math intellects than anything since - the latter group losing what little interest in the subject they had to begin with. Perhaps the opposite of what is described in the article except for discovery notions.

The NM was an idea broadly supported by math professionals in universities, whereas the reform ideas advanced by advocates of approaches described in the article have little support amongst the professorial class. Hmmm.

Wiki:

Topics introduced in the New Math include set theory, modular arithmetic, algebraic inequalities, bases other than 10, matrices, symbolic logic, Boolean algebra, and abstract algebra.[2] All of the New Math projects emphasized some form of discovery learning.[3] Students worked in groups to invent theories about problems posed in the textbooks. Materials for teachers described the classroom as "noisy." Part of the job of the teacher was to move from table to table assessing the theory that each group of students had developed and "torpedoing" wrong theories by providing counterexamples.

No, math is not racist. But the following from a Seattle Public School document seems to ignore the fact that "Western" mathematics is the only kind that really works in the modern world. Historical contributions certainly came from many cultural sources, but we are beyond cuneiform impressions on clay tablets. I taught math history on occasion and relished the discussion of Omar Khayyam, one of the ancestors of the subject I explored.

Power and oppression, as defined by
ethnic studies, are the ways in which
individuals and groups define
mathematical knowledge so as to see
“Western” mathematics as the only
legitimate expression of mathematical
identity and intelligence. This definition
of legitimacy is then used to
disenfranchise people and
communities of color. This erases the
historical contributions of people and
communities of color.

I don't really have a clear-cut, well-defined, position on the matter — Agent Smith

For which you should be profoundly thankful. :roll:

it doesn't answer why there is universe. — SpaceDweller

The various branches of physics seek answers to "how" rather than "why". You philosophers are charged with answering the latter. Good luck.

A while back I wrote an argument that a "first cause" was logically necessary. https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/12098/a-first-cause-is-logically-necessary/p1 After much debate, I am satisfied that the argument successfully stands — Philosophim

That's good. I'm not convinced, but I'm sure others here are. My experience with mathematical dynamical systems that progress forward or backward in time makes me cautious.

@TonesInDeepFreeze or @fishfry might be able to help. I was a math prof years ago but can't assist you here. You might send them a message and see if they are interested. Just a thought.

Is it logically necessary that spacetime must be always the same? — Janus

That's beyond simplistic. Time and length dilation under high velocities should have no effect on applications of logic in respective settings. But I don't think space really changes, just distances between some objects. But what do I know? Virtually nothing about the subject.