@frank
Accepting fear of death will mean to move on in life, and to not think about it.

There's a view that instead if trying to hammer these issues flat, allow them to be part of who you are, — frank

I don't know Frank, maybe if I do that, problems will be solved.

Thank you for your encouragement, I think I'm starting to see life as a great mysterious adventure, whose last destiny is known.

The most fascinating thing about studying the universe is that it is nature studying itself.
We're part of nature.
And that's mind-blowing.

I found being a part of the universe comforting.
I also find the idea if people&life forms experiencing all kind of incredible things before, during and after I die.
But none of those is enough to accept oblivion.
I have to accept the no returning.
I'm still 18, I have time, hopefully.

I guess being more ready to it is the positive side to it. I feel like I'm accepting it slowly.
Then somehow things get repeated, I'm in a battle with myself.
But the discussion here helped tremendously to see my problem through others' lenses.

I didn't deny others experience, but what others will experience won't be what I experience.
If you think I'm being selfish, you have to understand that I help people, and want happiness for others, but when I die that will be without value for me because I won't be there.

sure, except those who died.

One of the things I find happiness in is learning about the universe.

What if life wasn't there at all, there would be no death.

it's like saying don't talk about tomorrow and try to make sense of what could happen because it's unknown.
We know that our consciousness&existence is within our bodies.
So when our bodies end, we end.

Thank for the suggestion, I'll check it out.

But we do make it like other things when it is not. How we deal with the anticipation changes outcomes. It is not an answer but a set of helpful complications. — Valentinus

Can I ask something?
Do you think the anticipation is bad? I mean it is one of the most powerful things humans have.

I'm a fellow agnostic, but I have a problem with oblivion, can you take a look at a thread I started?
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/8215/im-afraid-of-losing-life

I agree.
Maybe I should've mention certainty&uncertainty to specify what I was talking about.
By the way, you're agnostic atheist, right?

I think you are all right.
I'll try, I hope I'll accept it finally, maybe with more of Spinoza and Epicurus.
BTW, what do you think about Spinoza views on god as nature?

You're right.
I just wanted to say, that there is many things we said: We know X is true.
But as time goes someone disproves it, like how Einstein disproved Newton Ideas about absolute time.
Do you see what I mean?

So is it absolutely true that it is caused by the earth rotating?
Whatever happens in the distant future?

I don't know Banno, maybe language is a barrier for understanding what are you talking about.
Why not put it in a simple way.
preferably, give me an example of scientific truths.

Thank you for your time

:lol:

Basically, I find losing all this beautiful experience, and the potential to experience things in the future, terrifying and heartbreaking.

I'm sorry for your losses.

you won't be able to regret it happening because, uh, you are dead. — Valentinus

I'm afraid that I lose what I have now, not when I'm dead.
the fear comes from the fact, that I won't ever experience anything after I die, because experiencing things is the only source of value in existence.
what made you terrified of death?
if something is unclear, I apologize sometimes I don't express things right.

Thanks for the reply.
Yeah, I understand now.
But then how can you be sure that we really know the things which we think we know?
Ex: take any scientific theory we have now if we found evidence against that theory, and we proved it to be wrong, does that mean we now know the truth?
If anything in my writing is unclear I apologize.

I understand, but accepting the death of someone can be easier than you death.

So once you are alive, even when you die you're alive as a fact?
But you don't exist anymore as a CONSCIOUS being.

Without death life would be worthless. — NOS4A2

If life was eternal, and the world was eternal, I don't see it as without value, do you?

And yes, I meant the possibility of a soul, which close to zero, but it's still there

Yeah, I understand your point, isn't that just living until you die?
Don't get me wrong it's a good way to see things

Thank everyone for moving this discussion.
I apologize if my responses look close-minded, I'm just not convinced.

BTW, what will therapy do for me?
Tell me to just live.

Wow
That's amazing and really sad.
I'm sorry for your loss
don't you miss your cat? don't you find sadness that she doesn't exist or feel anything at all? and how does that affect your view on death?

An individual life is what is experienced between birth and death. One cannot lose a life, one can only shorten it. — A Seagull

Um, that's exactly my problem, and my question is how can I face the loss of this amazing gift called life.

So it's a good idea!
Father! I am an atheist who thinks you are believing in BS, and because I don't believe in that comforting BS, I want to go to a therapist, who is Muslim to tell him/her what I feel and find a solution.
I can't as you can imagine

But If consciousness didn't involve, no one could have seen the beauty and elegance of the universe.

Maybe this is the issue. A dash of coherentism, a drop of foundationalism, and some pragmatism, too.

Add some nihilistic egoism Tao-style utilitarianism, and voila, you've made a something. Delicious! — Zophie

Beautifully put, I have no idea what it means though.

Yea, but I don't think I'm unique many people stop to think about it, especially in deep movies like Inception and the like

OR go with Socrates and view death as an unopened gift. — I like sushi

Yeah, I think he is right, but the more we know about the universe the more it is improbable that there is something after body death, so I don't want to hope on something so improbable

Do you have a cat? You may have noticed that cats are fearless, a good lesson there. Or another way: life is a big dish of delicious ice cream. You can sit and watch it melt and attract flies or you can eat it. Which? — tim wood

Cats are fearless? I don't think so, I never saw a brave cat.
As for the ice cream, I'll eat a bit, but pause think about it, then repeat, probably.

Probably around you are reasonably healthy people living reasonable lives. — tim wood

Around me are religious people, that don't see their mortality, and believe in the absurd, even my family, unfortunately.
About psych problems, I think I have but, they aren't the source of fearing losing life, they only make life more complicated.

"We never know what is true" is obviously wrong, since we everything we know is indeed true - otherwise it would be incorrect to claim to know it. — Banno

I agree with you that maybe we can know what is true, but when you say "since we everything we know is indeed true - otherwise it would be incorrect to claim to know it", that's a false logic
Do you know how many things we thought we know, but turned to be wrong?

Thank you for your kind words.
I hate to say it after all that you said.
"But" those who died before me, lost exactly what I don't want to lose.
Sorry for being selfish.