Unfortunately, no, mods on forums keep an eye out for offensive posts of the highly emotional type - the more emotionally charged a post is, the greater the likelihood of being banned by the panel of mods. This, if nothing else, demonstrates that mods on many forums have it backwards. Instead of doing a Turing test and weeding out chat-bots, they're actually conducting a Reverse Turing Test and expelling real people from internet forums and retaining members that are unfeeling and machine-like.
What gives? — TheMadFool
Yes, I'm curious about this. In mathematics, academic institutions have a very powerful influence of what gets published in important journals. The reviewers are mostly faculty members or work in jobs that are roughly equivalent. — jgill
Such incapacity or refusal to learn denounces, in the mind of the socialist, the voluntary and perverse debasement of intelligence to a subhuman level, the conscious abdication of that basic capacity for discerning which is the very condition of humanness in the human being. Being a socialist means refusing out of pride to take up the responsibilities of a human consciousness. — Rafaella Leon
The real smoking gun about prior planning seems to be Lauren Boebert, a congressperson who gave a tour of the Capitol to many of the insurrectionists on the 5th, who tweeted "today is 1776" the morning of the 6th before the insurrection began, and who was live-tweeting the movements of congresspeople within the Capitol during the insurrection. — Pfhorrest
No way, he only pardons his loyal cronies. — praxis
He's way too much of a pussy (heh) to take such a risk. So I'll vote self-preservation. — Echarmion
Suppose two people were to equally believe that eating factory farmed animals is unethical yet one is economically disadvantaged and chooses to eat it anyway since alternatively raised animals is too expensive, would we judge the latter for being unethical? — avalon
And in doing so, aside from the rational pressure of your actual arguments against those beliefs, apply social and emotional pressure discouraging people from holding them. Both the person you're arguing against, but also, and perhaps more importantly, any undecided observers. — Pfhorrest
I think what Isaac is trying to say is that you are very unlikely to change someone's mind in a non-professional conversation (like an internet forum) just by making what you think are good arguments. If you want to change people's minds, you need to first figure out what context they formed their opinion in in the first place, and then try to give them a new context in which they can then come to new conclusions. — Echarmion
There is no oppressed and marginalized people anywhere on the planet. There is news and articles about fictional realities, incentivized by a previously unclear (in objectivity) but powerful group. There is also no and never have been on the planet racism or movements of civil rights. Inner city poverty had been caused by the speaking and using of improper language, but today differences in earnings are being reconciled. — eduardo
based on various data sources, it is clear that covid is only a real threat to the elderly and those with underlying conditions (and in fact the elderly who succumb generally ALSO have an underlying condition). In fact it looks like 99% of deaths are among the elderly and/or those with underlying conditions. — dazed
I'll be happy to have a reasonable discussion with you. — Harry Hindu
Yes it was. Also, no it wasn't. — Harry Hindu
You didn't have to. It is implied in what you wrote. — Harry Hindu
People aren't equal. It's a fact of life.
Why try to sugarcoat this with politically correct notions that do nothing but set vulnerable people up for failure?
I don't advocate any particular political or social system. I am opposed to the politically correct pretenses of equality which just add insult to injury. — baker
The page is curved and not fully visible, but the heading is titled “[illegible] taken immediately to save the [illegible] constitution".
Tolerating it leads to, well, you've seen what just happened. — Baden
It’s just one with very obvious cons — like, for example, what just happened. — Pfhorrest
I’d say even that should be “tolerated” to the extent that that means taking it as an idea about which we can discuss the pros and cons. — Pfhorrest
You are simply ignoring the concept of "criminal negligence". — Metaphysician Undercover
OED, incite: "urge or stir up". Where is there a mention of the need to intend the specific action resulting from the urging or stirring up? — Metaphysician Undercover
The outcome could be completely accidental, unforeseeable, and even improbable, as is often the case in manslaughter for example. — Metaphysician Undercover
Once I couldn't get my weed whacker to start and I threw my shoulder out yanking on the rope. It pissed me off so I threw it into the creek. As I watched it spinning through the air, sailing over the fence, I thought to myself, there must have been a better way to deal with it. — Hanover
I think that's a false representation. There is nothing intrinsic to the concept of "incite", which necessitates that the person who incites must intend the specific action which is incited. — Metaphysician Undercover
incite
to encourage someone to do or feel something unpleasant or violent:
She incited racial hatred by distributing anti-Semitic leaflets.
[ + to infinitive ] She was expelled for inciting her classmates to rebel against their teachers.
They denied inciting the crowd to violence. — Cambridge
Trump is guilty of inciting, because he clearly intended for his followers to take action, in the form of some sort of protestation. — Metaphysician Undercover
All that is necessary is to show criminal intent. — Metaphysician Undercover
Criminal law is designed so that ignorance cannot be used as a defense, because this would allow the criminal who is a proficient liar to walk free, under the pretense of ignorance. — Metaphysician Undercover
I notice among my age peers (40+) that they're trying to downsize on all the social networks, phone time etc. anyway. I suspect for kids growing up with this the novelty will wear off even sooner. — Benkei
That's a mighty fine line to draw, between "incite" and "inspire". — Metaphysician Undercover
The inciteful, or inspirational (however you want to say it) activity was the false pretense of a stolen election. And that had been going on for months, so there was preparations made for the event. — Metaphysician Undercover
If you live in a racist society, you're a racist. Duh! — Harry Hindu
So, are you ready to demonstrate either that it was not this claim, made by the president, which incited the violence, or, that the claim was not a false pretense? Until you do, you're just blowing smoke, and the president is obviously guilty of inciting the violence. — Metaphysician Undercover
Brett was also considered, a member from two years back who increased his activity markedly just before being banned. — Banno
They can act as they see fit, but they won't have my business. — counterpunch
So after about a week of collecting results, with a sample size of 35, it looks like the forum leans:
- pretty strongly libertarian
- moderately egalitarian, and
- slightly progressive;
and slightly more than half of respondents identify as "left", while both/neither options (most neither) come in second, and only a minority identify as "right". — Pfhorrest
I'd stick to Umberto Eco's 14 points for using that word. — Banno
Ok but in a sense it could just always be elitist, it's just a matter of how much elitism we're talking. — BitconnectCarlos
The housing market is always going to price out some part of the population, it's just a matter of how big that part it. — BitconnectCarlos
Yet I was referring to Trump here. — ssu
How terrible insurrectionists would be those violently protesting the events then? — ssu
But what do you have against homeowners building equity in their property and gaining wealth through that? — BitconnectCarlos
Considering that the role racism played in how tabloids treated Megan had some evidence for it, it shouldn't've been dismissed outright, and certainly not in Fox's hyperbolic and posturing tone. — fdrake
So is the solution to ban renting? Does that really make a lot of sense? You know that renting out part of the house can also make paying off a mortgage easier. — BitconnectCarlos
I don't think that above makes him a fascist. Note the "if". — ssu
And note that those that have accused others of a fraud have been the leadership of the US administration itself. — ssu
Its not wrong that if you question the existence of white privilege you get called a racist. That was the point of what you quoted. Your reply simply doesn't address what I said, but that is expected from you. — Harry Hindu
Who and when on these forums have generalized whites by using terms like, "white privilege"? Lots of people in this forum. And when you disagree with them and point out the weak points of their argument, they call you a "racist".
— Harry Hindu
Well either it is advantageous to be white in which case generally white people are privileged in that respect, or racism doesn't manifest itself statistically. Since racism is statistically manifest, it is generally advantageous to be white. — Kenosha Kid