The world is totally separate from us, existing on its own never saying anything at all. — Corvus
My point is that OC 206 says, "If someone asked us 'but is that true [referring to a hinge]?' we might say 'yes' to him..." — Sam26
OC 206. If someone asked us "but is that true?" we might say "yes" to him; and if he demanded grounds we might say "I can't give you any grounds, but if you learn more you too will think the same"
Language alone cannot reveal the whole structure of the world. — Corvus
Part of the difficulty is translating experience, the anecdotal and intuition into the formula of philosophy arguments. — Jack Cummins
There is this impossible epistemic and thus ontological distance between knowledge and the world, until, that is, this distance is closed. — Astrophel
Jack, you know you are one of my favorite people, but civilization as we know it may collapse — Athena
Like the formal logic cannot capture or cope with the whole reality, language alone cannot capture or understand the world. — Corvus
374. We teach a child "that is your hand", not "that is perhaps (or "probably") your hand". That is how a child learns the innumerable language-games that are concerned with his hand. An investigation or question, 'whether this is really a hand' never occurs to him. Nor, on the other hand, does he learn that he knows that this is a hand.
Above is not a hinge proposition, but it is the absolute true fact (which is verified via the logical reasoning and reality), and I don't doubt it at all. It is exempt from doubting. — Corvus
OC 341. That is to say, the questions that we raise and our doubts depend on the fact that some propositions are exempt from doubt, are as it were like hinges on which those turn.
To clarify, this event is about 'Philosophy Writing'. So, that is the 'broad category'. — Amity
Moreover, we can't forget OC 206, where Wittgenstein points out that if someone asked, "but is that true" (referring to hinges), we might respond "yes," — Sam26
So the world is what is said by true sentences. — Banno
Hence, they are not propositions that set out how things are in the world, but propositions that set out how we are to talk about the world. They are the rules that set up and constitute our language games. They don't represent the world; they set the terms on which representation takes place. — Banno
However, perhaps the OP could be improved to lessen confusion. — Amity
II. What is a philosophy paper?
Philosophical essays prove some point through the use of rational argument. A philosophical essay is not about flowery language, story-telling techniques, or surprising the reader. The beauty of a philosophical essay is found in your ideas; the language that you use is only a tool for conveying these ideas to the reader. The art is in proving one’s point clearly.
The philosophical essay generally follows a very simple structure:
1. State the proposition to be proved.
2. Give the argument for that proposition.
3. Show that the argument is valid.
4. Show that the premises are true.
5. Consider an objection to your argument and respond to that objection.
6. State the upshot of what has been proven. (Martinich, A.P. (1996) Philosophical
Writing. Oxford: Blackwell Publishing. p. 53.)
However, this June event is wider. It is about philosophy writing. — Amity
4) Must fall under the broad category of a philosophical essay. The Essay's Title and Topic are chosen by the author. The philosophical viewpoint can be academic or less formal. It should be systematic with an Introduction, Main Body and Conclusion. This is non-fiction. Poetic expression is allowed if it completes or supports the philosophical exploration.
Remember, it's all a story...with or without a definite conclusion. Open ended...for further exploration. Philosophy is a Conversation. Here, writers and readers can be in close dialogue or a wild dance — Amity
They believe that doubts are also simulation — Corvus
Folks who believe life could be simulation could doubt if the Earth exists. — Corvus
Maybe I am misunderstanding the point here. It seems to me that we misunderstand and misuse words all the time...When Descartes starts doubting away in the Meditations, he doesn't stop writing in French. — Count Timothy von Icarus
OC 341 That is to say, the questions that we raise and our doubts depend on the fact that some propositions are exempt from doubt, are as it were like hinges on which those turn.
Hinges are about lived truths, — Sam26
OC 341 That is to say, the questions that we raise and our doubts depend on the fact that some propositions are exempt from doubt, are as it were like hinges on which those turn.
But all language games are embedded in the world; the counting of apples involves apples and charts, the building involves blocks and slabs. It is not peculiar to hinge propositions to be about how things are - all propositions do that. — Banno
What are the philosophical / epistemological / logical grounds for hinge propositions being exempt from doubt? — Corvus
We treat hinges as true for practical reasons. And the fact that they're not doubted demonstrates they don't play the true/false game. We accept them as true, period. — Sam26
OC 204 Giving grounds, however, justifying the evidence, comes to an end; - but the end is not certain propositions' striking us immediately as true, i.e. it is not a kind of seeing on our part; it is our acting, which lies at the bottom of the language-game.
OC 205. If the true is what is grounded, then the ground is not true, not yet false.
So far, I've referenced only one philosopher on the subject, which has not been of general interest to philosophers, and I'm hard put to find a rebuttal. — Vera Mont
Both what makes hypothesis and any possible experience that could validate or falsify it intelligible are already framed by the hinge conviction. — Joshs
My idea is that you can doubt on anything and everything if you choose to do so. Even the fact "Paris in France." could be doubted under the simple syllogism. — Corvus
"Exempt" is normally used for the situation where an object is free from liability, duty or restriction. Hence it seems not a proper word to use for doubt. — Corvus
Hinge propositions, like the earth has existed for more than ten minutes or "I have two hands” —aren’t true in the way we typically think of propositions being true (i.e., through evidence, justification, or correspondence to reality). — Sam26
Someone might ask you "Is it true that bishops move diagonally?" and you reply, "Yes," but does this mean that it's true in an epistemological sense? No, — Sam26
Seems to be delicate nuance in the uses, but the gist of the claim seems it is impossible to doubt? — Corvus
What is the illocutionary difference between the two expressions? — Corvus
I understand W said that hinge propositions / certainties cannot be doubted or not allowed doubting — Corvus
There are different types of doubts too i.e. rational doubts based on reasoning, and psychological doubts based on feelings, emotions and beliefs. — Corvus
The other language game of truth is one of foundational convictions. The latter convictions are accepted as true and cannot be sensibly doubted. — Sam26
OC 341 That is to say, the questions that we raise and our doubts depend on the fact that some propositions are exempt from doubt, are as it were like hinges on which those turn.
Well, we disagree. I think this position is clear and a common misinterpretation of OC. — Sam26
The truth of traditional propositions is tied to evidence or falsifiability. “It’s raining” is true if I look out and see rain; it’s false if I don’t. — Sam26
Hinges aren’t true in the same way that ordinary propositions are, i.e., they're beyond the truth-testing game. Their truth is their unshakeable role in our practices. — Sam26
I hope your essay is progressing well. Update? — Amity
1) Wittgenstein’s hinges function as indubitable certainties outside the domain of epistemological justification.
2) They differ from traditional propositions by enabling traditional truth operations to function. — Sam26
So I see what you're talking about, but I don't think he's talking in terms of a correspondence that a realist would approve of. — frank
Mind doesn't have outside or inside. — Corvus
I think the point of the TLP is to show that when we talk about "understanding reality" in some rarified sense, we're doing something with language that it's not designed for. — frank
It follows that the universe has the external somewhere. — Corvus