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  • Word of the day - Not to be mistaken for "Word de jour."
    Unknown to most, Duckrabbit is just an appendage of a much larger pareidolic chimera.
  • The Religion Unmarred By Violence: Jainism.
    Unfortunately because having a place of torture (hell) as part of your religion amounts to condoning and accepting extreme forms of violence. This makes it possible for people to turn violent in the name of religion - as a form of (divine) justice for instance.TheMadFool

    Maybe it just siphons that potentiality of violence because retribution happens afterlife. The judgement is outsourced so Jains can keep the faith and perform ahimsa here and now. The belief in hell might counteract a natural propensity for retributive acts (an eye for an eye).
  • The Religion Unmarred By Violence: Jainism.
    Is suicide an act of violence toward the self?

    Probably a tiny minority of Jains still practice ritual suicide Sallekhana. Though the religious context probably mitigates any harm such an act might normally entail for us Westerners. They would not see it as violence toward the self.

    "It is not considered as a suicide by Jain scholars because it is not an act of passion..." — Wikipedia: Skallekhana
  • Does Size Matter?
    Size/complexity/power matters under the burden of a competition. But if we're all working together, then I'd say a reflection on significance is somewhat insignificant (or sentimental).

    What if the Mormons get a monopoly on space travel... "He who controls the spice controls the universe."
  • Word of the day - Not to be mistaken for "Word de jour."
    We had come under cover of night to sabotage the vigneron's récolte de raisins.

    But the 'Fils de pute' was waiting with a revolver in hand.

    "Gout de Terroir!" he shouted as he fired in the direction of René.

    I will christen the vignes with his blood if it is the last thing I do. Le sang est le goût de la terre.
  • Money is the currency of fear
    Without such fear there is no need for money to help one another.leo

    Fear certainly is a motivating factor that gives money value. Our society leverages artificial scarcity to prop up, conserve and concentrate wealth. If there are too many houses the value of your house goes down...

    If I could just ignore my hunger or the need to sleep, sit out in the snow and die peacefully, there would be no need to help or be helped anymore. Some people don't mind that push and pull of background motivating factors, the avoidance of pain and the pursuit of pleasure, while others are tormented by it.
  • Processed meat is Group1 carcinogen, yet prevalent
    Lobbying by food industry?Saurabh Bondarde

    I don't think hamburgers and hotdogs (animal products in general) need a lobby. They taste so damn good.

    Even a plant based diet is filled with potential/likely carcinogens. What is the relative risk of a serving of peanut butter (with ppm aflatoxin residues) to that of sashimi tuna ( with IGF1 promoting factors and mercury). I also love cocoa but the plant naturally takes up considerable amounts of cadmium from soils.
  • Word of the day - Not to be mistaken for "Word de jour."
    the word is turbidityNoble Dust

    The tumescence of passion comes before the turbid waters.

    I've ejaculated a poetic idiom with double entendre.
  • Inherent subjectivity of perception.
    Only a perspective which was completely free of intention would be truly objective. But then it would not be a perspective.Pantagruel

    Sounds like a koan.

    What is the view of no view viewed?

    How is it that there is no thing in the "thing-in-itself"?
  • The Sun & Perpetual Motion
    Frame-dragging does very, very slightly slow down the Earth's orbit around the sun. We can see this more notably in the case of very very massive objects orbiting very very close to each other, e.g. two black holes.Pfhorrest

    The laws of General Relativity tell us that whenever a mass moves through curved space, it will emit gravitational radiation, causing it to lose energy and become more tightly bound to the mass causing the spatial curvature. Any two masses gravitationally bound together — whether they're stars, white dwarfs, neutron stars, brown dwarfs, black holes, or even planets — will radiate their kinetic energy away until they eventually merge. — Ethan Siegal

    Source: No, Black Holes Will Never Consume the Universe

    Is Siegal explaining the same thing you are in different terms or is frame-dragging unrelated to gravitational radiation? They both contribute to orbital decay given enough time?
  • Is philosophy a curse?
    But the sea is infinitely deep, so if you try to touch the bottom, to reach down until you find something to stand on, you'll just sink forever and drown.Pfhorrest

    Then your tablet beeps and you continue chasing down items in an Amazon warehouse.

    Being is cursed if being is cursed.
  • Mundane Mysteries
    It works just as well and you only have to worry about the 2 ends.Sir2u

    It's ok. I'm throwing my sink out and will wash my dishes in the local creek from now on.
  • Identity and Purpose
    Therefore, defining the identity of something requires an infinite number of definitions.Unlimiter

    Kind of sounds like the Buddhist concept of dependent origination with infinite regress. No thing is fundamentally disconnected/independent from anything else in the universe in time and space. Though any useful abstraction focuses in on a certain level of simple utility and ignores what is negligible.

    The purpose of my cup this morning is to hold the tea I drank. Dog forbid the bloody causal chains that produced it since the big bang drown me in bewildering infinities.
  • Mundane Mysteries


    Thanks Sir,

    But I'm still sort of bewildered by the design choice. It'd be so much easier on those installing a p trap if they didn't have to perfectly align that particular junction. Tightening the other couplings can throw off good alignment. I spent too much time messing with it even after knowing I had to align it.

    It must be about manufacturing complexity (extra cost) for that particular union.

    There is still a mystery about this I'm afraid will never be uncovered.

    It'll be great content for Netflix's next season of Unsolved Mysteries.
  • Mundane Mysteries


    Well, that was already a problem that is occurring from a place far beyond the P trap. I doubt the tape will be much of a problem any time soon.
  • Mundane Mysteries


    I call it a junction but it is just were two pipes are coupled together. This coupling is beneath the level at which the water rises up to empty back out. I watched a guy explain how susceptible the junction is to leaking but he didn't suggest teflon tape which I ended up using to end my sink trap leak.

    I want an engineers explanation for the gasket less junction.

    The bottle trap looks like it could clog very easily.
  • Everything is free
    Anyways, what do you guys think about everything being free?DanielP

    It's scary as f.

    All the free worlds are amorphous goop domains. I am one with the goop but am still afraid of dying and embarrassing myself.

    Death's goop door beckons but I'm not ready to walk through it yet.

    P.S. You can't have my pizza slices even though you are one with them.
  • How did the standard of good and evil come to be


    Sounds satisfying.

    But such narratives in the support of any local belief system around "good and evil" are susceptible to ironic and corrupt uses (ie. a means to many kinds of ends depending on who stands to gain) within the hierarchy of said culture. Wolves can be clothed in sheep skin, so to speak.

    The narrative of good and evil lends power to the righteous in proportion to the degree everyone believes in and abides by it (or so pretends). It's as much a propaganda tool for monarchs as it is a means of keeping social order.
  • Why is there something rather than nothing?
    Why is there something rather than nothing?

    You can't have one without the other.

    Unless... there is nothing when there is no point of view. How many non-points of view are there between blinks?
  • advantages of having simulated a universe
    what can they then do with the knowledge they have acquired?

    they cannot wind back the clock on their own civilisation to start again from the beginning, they cannot recreate themselves anew in their own universe so that they can experience first hand this new and hopeful future. they cannot, as far as I can see, use this knowledge in any way that benefits them at all. this knowledge can only be used to benefit some other civilisation that exists in a simulation created by them.
    Kaarlo Tuomi

    Your assumptions are so arbitrary but this partly due to the speculative nature of the premise. Just extend the uses we have of simulations now to understand how such a civilization might use them.

    Perhaps they want to avoid existential threats and so run through billions of scenarios to try to understand how to avoid otherwise unforeseeable problems.

    Perhaps they want to see how likely it is for intelligent life to emerge with a different set of elements.

    Maybe they want to visit another simulated time in VR and meet their dead relatives.

    The list of speculative uses seems like it would be very difficult to exhaust.
  • The Last Word
    No harm, no foul.Hanover

    The Last Words of Hanover. RIP.
  • advantages of having simulated a universe
    I think of a person as inhabiting a universe. then anything that person constructs must be inside the universe they inhabit. I cannot envisage how they would then get inside the universe they just constructed.Kaarlo Tuomi

    Any constructed universe (just a name for a necessarily simpler simulation) is nested in your universe. There is no way a simulation could duplicate the complexity of the actual universe.

    If it did, you'd end up converting the universe itself in a total reconstruction toward a new past or a future.
  • Nihilism and Being Happy
    The thought alone of no life having meaning disturbs me quite deeply, and I have these thoughts often, and they are irrefutable. There is no reason to live.JacobPhilosophy

    Your thoughts are just post hoc scripts that magnify and feed-back on the affects of your depression.

    Practice observing the emotional affects without getting caught up in the narratives they help generate. Close the gate on memetic instigators.

    Do activities which do not involve too much self-reference and which you also enjoy. Take your first person view outside of your body using your imagination. Try flying over a city you've never been to. Go to the moon. Climb the rigging of a sailing ship and sit in the crows nest. Toilet paper Pfhorrest's house.

    Imagine reality is irreducible.

    Find an animal to interact with in a therapeutic setting. Find some oxytocin release.
  • advantages of having simulated a universe
    I can't imagine aliens inside the VR they had created. by analogy, I don't expect to meet Bill Gates inside the Microsoft Flight Simulator. there might be a virtual Bill Gates, or a hologram of Bill Gates, but not the actual Bill Gates.Kaarlo Tuomi

    Eh, just speak directly. It isn't that you can't imagine it as much as you don't wish to consider such a scenario in this discussion.

    If you are meeting Bill Gates via Skype, are you really meeting Bill Gates?
  • On Individualism
    Are you saying that we validate our existence by receiving attention from other people?Alejandro

    We become who we are through our relationships to other people (does sound a bit general and cliche). You may intentionally change how you interact depending on the nature of the relationship and many other impressions. As to whether this kind of curation is to be labeled authentic or fake, who is to finalize that determination?

    Oh... I hate ending with questions.

    This is some kind of named bias, but I can't remember the name of it. Anyone else?Pfhorrest

    You're not secretly testing us are you, as if we ought to know. Egocentric bias? Hypocrisy?
  • The Cartesian Problem For Materialism
    Does the cogito ergo sum make sense to you?TheMadFool

    What can one do with this foundational intuition if everything else is to be doubted? You're giving me Cartesian anxiety.

    If we move upwards from Descartes dirty basement (too much of the ol' philosophia), we can all put our clothes back on and have reasonable doubts in the living room.
  • The Cartesian Problem For Materialism
    What I mean to show here is that this is an egregious error; skepticism actually leads you away from, rather than to, materialism: we can doubt the reality of the physical/material world but we can never doubt the existence of our minds.TheMadFool

    Don't you have to be a bit more conservative and say that you can't doubt the existence of your own mind. You can doubt the existence of mine. Descartes gives you permission.
  • Koans


    Sorry, I highjacked your thread with pseudo koans.

    The Wish To Be A Red Indian by Franz Kafka:

    "If one were only an Indian, instantly alert, and on a racing horse, leaning against the wind, kept on quivering jerkily over the quivering ground, until one shed one's spurs, for there needed no spurs, threw away the reins, for there needed no reins, and hardly saw that the land before one was smoothly shorn heath when horse's neck and head would be already gone."
  • On Individualism
    I ran a small poll in which I asked participants wether social media profiles represent fake selves, in which the overwhelming answer was yes.Alejandro

    Well, even outside of presenting oneself on social media platforms we mediate our performance all the time to achieve desired ends. Work requires that we act in a certain way, which maybe at odds with an innate tendency in expressing oneself. Folks working in social media surely are curating how they appear based on what is known to draw attention.

    Maybe it was Freud who originally explained mental illness and psychological distress as the conflict between innate drives and social demands. It takes a lot of energy to follow rules.

    Suppose an authentic self is actually rather repugnant or immoral, or sans the shaping influence of a community, empty (a man without an audience is not a man).
  • advantages of having simulated a universe
    I can't personally imagine how A would construct a simulation of their own universe that includes themselves, but that's probably a limitation of my imagination rather than of your description.Kaarlo Tuomi

    You can't imagine aliens in VR but you can imagine alien physicists doing high-fidelity ancestor simulations which produce self-conscious beings? Hmmmm. Fishy.

    Am I being tested by the simulation?
  • Koans
    The students gathered in the rose garden to listen to the Grand Master Potus talk about his enlightenment.

    “You know, I’m, like, a enlightened person.” “I am a really enlightened guy.” “I’ve been known as being a very enlightened guy for a long time.” “I have a very good brain and I’ve said a lot of things.” “I’m enlightened. Some people would say I’m very, very, very enlightened.” “And then people say oh, is he a enlightened person? I’m more enlightened than all of them put together, but they can’t admit it.” “My EQ is one of the highest — and you all know it! Please don’t feel so stupid or insecure; it’s not your fault.” “My two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really enlightened…. I went from VERY successful businessman, to top T.V. Star, to President of the United States (on my first try). I think that would qualify as not just enlightened, but Buddha….and a very stable Buddha at that!”

    The 'great and tremendous' emptiness which Master Potus evoked brought Donna from Fox News to tears.

    "It was like he lifted up America with his giant hands and 'ka-ching'! I was enlightened."
  • advantages of having simulated a universe
    1. what does having made a simulated universe say about the civilisation that made it?Kaarlo Tuomi

    Depends on how sophisticated the civilization becomes I guess and what they're actually using simulations for.

    'O God, I could be bound in a nutshell, and count myself a king of infinite space – were it that I had sufficient control over the simulation.'

    Simulations bridge physical distances. You can do pretty much anything without going anywhere, so the energy savings would be substantial.

    The actual cosmic distance between planets likely makes traveling to other solar systems untenable, so naturally one would expand a sense of inner space with simulations.

    2. given that the simulation is, or should be, undetectable by those inside it, how, precisely, does its existence communicate anything to anyone else?Kaarlo Tuomi

    The ones inside it are presumably the ones who made it.
  • Koans
    The goat asked the man, "what's wrong?"igstarn's Zen Slap

    Then, all of a sudden, it hit him. "Goats can't talk!"igstarn's Zen Slap

    The man was enlightened.igstarn's Zen Slap
  • Koans
    "Goats can't talk!"

    ...and the man was enlightened.
    Pfhorrest

    "That's tremendous!" Zen Master Trump proclaimed as he clapped with one hand.
  • Koans
    There are no things in the absence of things.

    There are no thoughts in the pursuit of no things.

    What things, what things, is to sing of what things?

    But the sting of these things is enough.

    To think of these things,

    In a string of these things can be tough.

    There are no things in the absence of stings!

    But the sounds and the migraines are enough.
  • Mob Justice, Social Media and the Panopticon
    I assume by formal justice you mean due process.Antonorganizer

    Yes, precisely the term I should have used in my OP.

    In the George Floyd case for example, there's a lot of pressure for this cop who seems completely out of line to be charged. To your point, it doesn't allow a jury to weigh the evidence as objectively as possible. It's been a huge consensus that he's a cold-blooded murderer in court of public opinion, and if he isn't charged, that will be assumed proof of systemic racism. If we can't set a clear distinction between the court of public opinion and formal justice, it opens up a frightening door to mob justice.Antonorganizer

    Well expressed concern and exactly to the point. If a verdict can be reached without a jury by some means, does the judge weigh the potential backlash of the public in his determination of guilt, out of self-preservation or a desire to maintain public peace?
  • Mob Justice, Social Media and the Panopticon
    In a way people know this. You don't walk out from the theater after seeing a superhero or an alien movie wondering if it was a documentary do you?Outlander

    No but after seeing a documentary you might have strong opinions about who is guilty of a crime. Lots of short clips on reddit showing potentially criminal (or just bad) behavior have no context but the condemning language of a righteous mob follows in the comment section. The jump to a conclusion is a bit hasty.

    What role, if any, did Netflix's Filthy Rich have in putting pressure on finding and prosecuting Ghislaine Maxwell? Any?

    How will the vociferous opinions of those watching Netflix's Unsolved Mysteries renew the focus on suspects. I can imagine death threats are already being sent to a few individuals in these docs.

    I read a story yesterday about a poor slob who lost his job because of a tantrum at Costco. I mean, who hasn’t occasionally lost their shit at Costco.praxis

    There was a case of a some professor being targeted as a participant in Charlottesville tiki torch march even though he was never there.

    Tantrums get you fired I guess, unless you're the President of the United States.
  • Sauron as a Real Entity
    Jeff Bezos is a real entity with powerful resources. He is our modern day Sauron.

    One online retailer to rule them all
    One online retailer to find them
    One online retailer to bring them all

    And with a monopoly, bind them
  • Koans
    Mrs. Zenilinski caught Gregory passing notes in class.

    "Gregory! Come up to the front of the glass and answer this question on the black board. What does 2+2 equal?"

    Gregory shuffled his feet a bit and took a moment then scrawled a large 9 on the black board.

    Mrs. Z huffed in exasperation. "This is what happens when you don't pay attention to your math lessons. The answer is 4. Go to the Dunce corner and put the Koan hat on."

    Gregory did as he was told.

    Mrs Z addressed the class. "Now everyone, tell me why Gregory must wear the Koan hat."

    Sophia raised her hand and responded: "Because Greg has no causal power. What happens to Greg is beyond his control. "

    Mrs. Z tensed. "Sophia! Go to the Dunce corner and put on a Koan hat. We shall not encourage such disobedience."