Stewed beef in coconut milk, with yucca, green plantain, white cabbage, served over rice is great though. — Sir2u

Sounds very similar to a Thai curry, minus the manioc and plantain.

Never have tried a plantain or manioc (outside of tapioca dessert) but I'm guessing they are basically an unsweet starch with their own unique texture.

Let's not argue the enforceability of it but this post was mainly to argue the ethics of it. — Gitonga

Why shouldn't the likely consequences of enforcement come to bear on the ethics of it? It's all hypothetical/imaginary anyway.

I thought it was everything is goat. Did I miss some huge revelation? — ArguingWAristotleTiff

No, we've got the domestication list for the chef:

Banana (Goat)
Potato (Goat)
Goat


Fried plantains and stewed goat. Vodka. Enough to fuel any will to abstraction.

Oh you can see my correct count but I cannot. Mine is stuck at 664. The fault is somehow on my side.

Edit: Oh, never mind. I'm looking at the other counter under profile.

Case solved... almost...

No one uses seeds any more because it is so much easier just to cut and replant the shots that continuously come out of the roots. — Sir2u

Apparently the giant companies like Dole are eschewing new tech gene modification to try and get ahead of the new oncoming fusarium wilt problem (like what hit the Gro Michel with panama disease in 1950s). There is a Vice piece I think where they show workers collecting seeds from generally non-seeding cultivars to try and select fusarium resistant progeny. They were squashing a huge amount of fruit to find just a handful of seeds. Seems dumb but I guess these companies are afraid of the public perception of "GMO" bananas.

No, just like wheat and corn they were mixed and match to get better fruit and ended up like the ones this guy buys in the supermarket. — Sir2u

An interesting question then might be just how fast bananas became near sterile cultivars in the course of their domestication. Though folks still can use seedy fruit from wild types (probably also domesticated) as you've shown.

Even the bananas domesticated in the pacific by(?) seafaring polynesians are seedless. I don't think they carried seeding varieties with them but I could be wrong.

The banana rabbit hole...

If the banana was domesticated 7,000 years ago, does that mean they were as seedless back then?

The selection of the banana preceded any why. Maybe it coincided with "Oooooooohh!"

You can still breed from the Cavendish (the ubiquitous market banana) by seed but you have to mash a lot of fruit to find them. I wonder how many pounds of banana you have to smash on average to find one viable seed.

The banana is the atheist's nightmare.

As for magic, he dropped out of wizardry school after one of his professors caught him using an invisibility spell in the girl's shower room. Apparently the spell wasn’t strong enough to cover his huge hands entirely. — praxis

This is exactly a training task assigned in some spy guilds, to infiltrate the local whore houses using invisibility but the prevalence of guard dogs has always been problematic. Finding and disenchanting magic doilies and wards is by no means a piece of cake but the dog problem is a whole other kettle of fish. And don't even talk about doilies on dogs... spy folk might as well quit while they're behind.

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Nil starred blankly into his cup of tea.

This is already like DnD.

The forum is full of characters who have skill profiles. Original posters are like summoners of monsters (the posing of a problem). Then folks converge to attack, befriend or disenchant the problem.

I'll be Nil. A horribly burnt child who cloaks himself in black robes and a mask, who rides in back of the cart and prepares coffee, tea and other pick me ups to sustain effort in the face of absurdity (i mean adversity).

Edit:

Nil ought to be a religious caste of being that has interchangeable members (copies) of itself. So there are many burnt children who conceal themselves in cloaks all which have the same name. We are all Nil, made in the same burning ritual, trained to do exactly was Nils do: serve coffee and tea and pick me ups in the back of the cart. Maybe we also know how to shoe horses.

:strong: :kiss:

They must be stupid and dull people, eh? If only you could tell them to their face.

If it is fated that I will get fatter by abstaining from eating food, then it is fated.

If it is fated that I will bear a child as a man, so it is fated.

If it is fated that nothing is what it seems, so it is fated.

Medical errors the third-leading cause of death in America.

If it is fated that the doctor errors in treating me, so it is fated.

炬燵 Kotatsu (kanji for torch and footwarmer)
火燵 Kotatsu (kanji for fire and footwarmer)

I still wonder how the Japanese prior to the Westernization of Japan dealt with poorly insulated houses during colder months. The overbearing heat of summer is given as an explanation of large sliding or removable doors which can help air move through the house. But Japanese winters are also brutally cold.

At some time the precursor of the Kotatsu developed, which was a grate for hot coals over which a table top could be placed. Then some-kind insulating cloth/blanket was placed over the table top. You sit with your legs under a table feeling the radiative heat of hot coals with the blanket covering the lower half. I get the idea but it sounds kind of smokey to me but I'm sure everything was smokey back then.

Today electric Kotatsu are still popular because central heating systems are cost prohibitive. How many Japanese sleep under a Kotatsu?

The decadence of nobles is always tawdry aside the privations of the common folk.

In some towns there are not the smallest of tittynopes left to sustain even rodent life.

Tittynope maybe the finest and least tawdry word ever to grace any tome of diction. One can grow fat on the tittynopes of nobles.

Heart accounting is both impossible, because you can’t twist an abacus into the shape of a heart, and incredibly easy because the heart cannot lie. Its beats are like the notes to a song, some skip short and others diphthong long. — praxis

:rofl:

Unfortunately I was slurring vowels together trying to distinguish diphthongs today while skimming leaves out of the ponds. It's based on sound and not the spelling.

So "beer" is a diphthong but "heart" is not.

"You" could be no one else, otherwise it is someone else we are talking about. — schopenhauer1

Sarah could be no one else, otherwise Sarah wouldn't be who she is.

After schopenhauer1 drove antinatalist arguments into Sarah's head she was not herself anymore. The innocent Sarah of my immediate past had changed. She wanted to abort our baby.

No matter how many questions I posed to this new "Sarah", I could not find the counterfactual essence to which I was attached, nor could I convince her to keep our baby.

But I've used the transporter and materialized a copy of Sarah from two weeks prior to sudden change.
Thank science she is back. I've very carefully disposed of the old copy and have purged the transporter records.

Where did the real Sarah go? She shouldn't be other that who she is. I must shield her from the philosophy forum, less she unbecomes herself again.

There's no accounting for insouciant hearts.

There are accountants and angioplasties for esurient hearts.

. The issue is that in order for the melting pot to be created, it too had to be heated to its melting point so that it could be shaped/molded. Thus begins the infinite regress of melting pots made out of materials with ascending melting points. — Pinprick

Try this: the insulating properties of a sand as a mold? Some sand melts and stick to the surface of molded pot but probably can be sanded off.

Edit: Oh but you have to pour the molten stuff into the mold... Hmmmm.

What if you took two nesting clay pots and then lined the interior gap with whatever the metal feedstock is, then put it in a kiln?

Maybe if can devise a way to direct heat into a vessel that is lined with a well insulated ceramic wall, it could work, depending on what you want to melt. Then there is also pounding a semi fluid metal on a stone into desired shape.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucible

So you're saying hell contributes to the practice of ahimsa by appeasing people's desire for justice for the wrongs that are done to them with the promise of divine retribution? — TheMadFool

It could be a form of sublimation of instinct. Jains presumably do not slap back but the idea of otherworldy justice (nature itself slapping back at some time) helps to satisfy one's natural impulse for revenge.

This is not to say a belief in hell can't be leveraged and interpreted in other ways.

In Jain and Buddhist religion, there is no judging God who punishes evil-doers, so the bad karma that leads them to hell is solely their own doing. — Wayfarer

Is there a meaningful difference here? A fate in hell is to be feared and unless one is predestined for it, one ideally takes action to avoid it.

Unknown to most, Duckrabbit is just an appendage of a much larger pareidolic chimera.

Unfortunately because having a place of torture (hell) as part of your religion amounts to condoning and accepting extreme forms of violence. This makes it possible for people to turn violent in the name of religion - as a form of (divine) justice for instance. — TheMadFool

Maybe it just siphons that potentiality of violence because retribution happens afterlife. The judgement is outsourced so Jains can keep the faith and perform ahimsa here and now. The belief in hell might counteract a natural propensity for retributive acts (an eye for an eye).

Is suicide an act of violence toward the self?

Probably a tiny minority of Jains still practice ritual suicide Sallekhana. Though the religious context probably mitigates any harm such an act might normally entail for us Westerners. They would not see it as violence toward the self.

"It is not considered as a suicide by Jain scholars because it is not an act of passion..." — Wikipedia: Skallekhana

Size/complexity/power matters under the burden of a competition. But if we're all working together, then I'd say a reflection on significance is somewhat insignificant (or sentimental).

What if the Mormons get a monopoly on space travel... "He who controls the spice controls the universe."

We had come under cover of night to sabotage the vigneron's récolte de raisins.

But the 'Fils de pute' was waiting with a revolver in hand.

"Gout de Terroir!" he shouted as he fired in the direction of René.

I will christen the vignes with his blood if it is the last thing I do. Le sang est le goût de la terre.

Without such fear there is no need for money to help one another. — leo

Fear certainly is a motivating factor that gives money value. Our society leverages artificial scarcity to prop up, conserve and concentrate wealth. If there are too many houses the value of your house goes down...

If I could just ignore my hunger or the need to sleep, sit out in the snow and die peacefully, there would be no need to help or be helped anymore. Some people don't mind that push and pull of background motivating factors, the avoidance of pain and the pursuit of pleasure, while others are tormented by it.

Lobbying by food industry? — Saurabh Bondarde

I don't think hamburgers and hotdogs (animal products in general) need a lobby. They taste so damn good.

Even a plant based diet is filled with potential/likely carcinogens. What is the relative risk of a serving of peanut butter (with ppm aflatoxin residues) to that of sashimi tuna ( with IGF1 promoting factors and mercury). I also love cocoa but the plant naturally takes up considerable amounts of cadmium from soils.

the word is turbidity — Noble Dust

The tumescence of passion comes before the turbid waters.

I've ejaculated a poetic idiom with double entendre.

:up:

Only a perspective which was completely free of intention would be truly objective. But then it would not be a perspective. — Pantagruel

Sounds like a koan.

What is the view of no view viewed?

How is it that there is no thing in the "thing-in-itself"?

Frame-dragging does very, very slightly slow down the Earth's orbit around the sun. We can see this more notably in the case of very very massive objects orbiting very very close to each other, e.g. two black holes. — Pfhorrest

The laws of General Relativity tell us that whenever a mass moves through curved space, it will emit gravitational radiation, causing it to lose energy and become more tightly bound to the mass causing the spatial curvature. Any two masses gravitationally bound together — whether they're stars, white dwarfs, neutron stars, brown dwarfs, black holes, or even planets — will radiate their kinetic energy away until they eventually merge. — Ethan Siegal

Source: No, Black Holes Will Never Consume the Universe

Is Siegal explaining the same thing you are in different terms or is frame-dragging unrelated to gravitational radiation? They both contribute to orbital decay given enough time?

But the sea is infinitely deep, so if you try to touch the bottom, to reach down until you find something to stand on, you'll just sink forever and drown. — Pfhorrest

Then your tablet beeps and you continue chasing down items in an Amazon warehouse.

Being is cursed if being is cursed.

It works just as well and you only have to worry about the 2 ends. — Sir2u

It's ok. I'm throwing my sink out and will wash my dishes in the local creek from now on.

Therefore, defining the identity of something requires an infinite number of definitions. — Unlimiter

Kind of sounds like the Buddhist concept of dependent origination with infinite regress. No thing is fundamentally disconnected/independent from anything else in the universe in time and space. Though any useful abstraction focuses in on a certain level of simple utility and ignores what is negligible.

The purpose of my cup this morning is to hold the tea I drank. Dog forbid the bloody causal chains that produced it since the big bang drown me in bewildering infinities.

Thanks Sir,

But I'm still sort of bewildered by the design choice. It'd be so much easier on those installing a p trap if they didn't have to perfectly align that particular junction. Tightening the other couplings can throw off good alignment. I spent too much time messing with it even after knowing I had to align it.

It must be about manufacturing complexity (extra cost) for that particular union.

There is still a mystery about this I'm afraid will never be uncovered.

It'll be great content for Netflix's next season of Unsolved Mysteries.

Well, that was already a problem that is occurring from a place far beyond the P trap. I doubt the tape will be much of a problem any time soon.

I call it a junction but it is just were two pipes are coupled together. This coupling is beneath the level at which the water rises up to empty back out. I watched a guy explain how susceptible the junction is to leaking but he didn't suggest teflon tape which I ended up using to end my sink trap leak.

I want an engineers explanation for the gasket less junction.

The bottle trap looks like it could clog very easily.

Anyways, what do you guys think about everything being free? — DanielP

It's scary as f.

All the free worlds are amorphous goop domains. I am one with the goop but am still afraid of dying and embarrassing myself.

Death's goop door beckons but I'm not ready to walk through it yet.

P.S. You can't have my pizza slices even though you are one with them.

Sounds satisfying.

But such narratives in the support of any local belief system around "good and evil" are susceptible to ironic and corrupt uses (ie. a means to many kinds of ends depending on who stands to gain) within the hierarchy of said culture. Wolves can be clothed in sheep skin, so to speak.

The narrative of good and evil lends power to the righteous in proportion to the degree everyone believes in and abides by it (or so pretends). It's as much a propaganda tool for monarchs as it is a means of keeping social order.

Why is there something rather than nothing?

You can't have one without the other.

Unless... there is nothing when there is no point of view. How many non-points of view are there between blinks?

what can they then do with the knowledge they have acquired?

they cannot wind back the clock on their own civilisation to start again from the beginning, they cannot recreate themselves anew in their own universe so that they can experience first hand this new and hopeful future. they cannot, as far as I can see, use this knowledge in any way that benefits them at all. this knowledge can only be used to benefit some other civilisation that exists in a simulation created by them. — Kaarlo Tuomi

Your assumptions are so arbitrary but this partly due to the speculative nature of the premise. Just extend the uses we have of simulations now to understand how such a civilization might use them.

Perhaps they want to avoid existential threats and so run through billions of scenarios to try to understand how to avoid otherwise unforeseeable problems.

Perhaps they want to see how likely it is for intelligent life to emerge with a different set of elements.

Maybe they want to visit another simulated time in VR and meet their dead relatives.

The list of speculative uses seems like it would be very difficult to exhaust.

No harm, no foul. — Hanover

The Last Words of Hanover. RIP.