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  • Taxes
    It is a big issue on what governments should do and a big dilemma about what we (the voters) are looking for when we go to vote. Is it easy rule a country? No, it isn't. Probably, I wouldn't know what to do if I were a PM but at least being the more efficient, possibly.
    Every government has corruption. It is something wrong have to accept. I don't know how to explain it but when politicians reach the power they get corrupt.
    But, one of the paradoxes here, is the fact that Spain when was ruled by a very corrupt political party, our economy was between 10th and 7th worldwide and the salaries were ok. The current government kicked out the previous one just for being corrupt not in terms of efficiency. This is why there are some Spaniards who have nostalgia about the previous prime minister. So it is interesting, there are people who rather have corrupt politicians than useless ones.
  • TPF Quote Cabinet
    "I wish I could have skipped college."
    ~Saul Kripke 1940-2022
    180 Proof

    Sublime! :100:
  • TPF Quote Cabinet
    全く間違っています。。。(mattaku machigatsu te iya masu) = you are wrong!
  • Ukraine Crisis
    But another reason is that not everyone in the Western world is a selfish rat, and governments and organisations in democratic nations care about public opinion.SophistiCat

    I am agree in this point. Nevertheless… those persons are the minority. In most of the cases we would see that each state or organization would act selfishly.
    But yes, I follow your point and view. We should estimate those whose interests are not trickster.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    I remember that both France and the UK declared war on Germany.ssu

    I mean afterwards. When WWII ended. Nobody cared about Poland, Hungary, Czech, etc...

    France and UK declared the war, yes. But we should recall some facts: the British royal family's connection with Nazis (The Duke and Duchess of Windsor were sympathetic to Nazi Germany)
    The resistance of Charles de Gaulle fighting against the Nazis, while France controlled (and continued to control...) all African possessions.

    What I want to mean: hypocrisy. The states and organisations only act when they see it is worthy for their own interests and I don't understand why the Western world is caring that much about Ukraine. I feel I am not seeing something.
  • Taxes
    I think you're spending too much time on InstagramBenkei

    I don't have instagram...

    Rich is being able to provide comfortably for a family. It's not having a second home, a yacht and a bugatti.Benkei

    I am agree, when did I considered rich was the ability to buy a yacht?

    Again, it is not about the notion about what is being rich but efficiency with public spending. For example:

    Mark Rutte was sceptic about European Funds (also called as "Next Generation") aimed at Spanish crisis. He had a lot of doubts regarding our public expenditure and ability to control the waste of money by corrupt politicians. I was completely agree with your PM. Probably in Netherlands the economy is built and controlled with more sense but here is the opposite.
    So, taxing the middle class without a serious control would only make the disappearance of it.

    You put a good example: "Rich is being able to
    provide comfort in a family". Exactly, but here our government is not doing so. Something is going wrong when we pay a lot of taxes but the public administration is not capable of promoting houses for families or increasing the salaries of the workers for being able to raise kids...
  • Ukraine Crisis
    So bit confused on what you are trying to say here...ssu

    I didn't used Poland as an example. It was @SophistiCat.
    Anyway, what I meant is that Poland (in WWII crisis) didn't act struggling Western side or Soviet block just for national issues. Let's be honest, nobody cared about Polish destruction and chaos. After WWII, Poland began to live a very complex situation and USA administration or the Bank of England didn't support them with tons and tons of money.
    Poland did not regain its independence after World War Two. After the great conflict, the Soviet Union, which had first attacked Poland as Hitler’s ally in 1939, seized the entire Polish territory, with the open connivance of the triumphant Allies: A post-war war. The years of 1944–1963 in Poland
  • Ukraine Crisis
    We've done caring about Africa, did you not see Band Aid?Isaac

    Oh please you made me laugh :lol: after colonial era we left those countries killing themselves for tribe issues. Nobody took part on Rwanda civil war, Egyptian Coup de État; Republic of Congo bloody wars; Liberia conflicts with diamonds, and a big etc... the media simply doesn't care because they are "far away" from us. In those African countries only went some humanitarians without the back up of their countries.
    Saying that Rwanda had the same support as Ukraine in nowadays is denying the reality.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    With friends like these, who needs enemies?Manuel

    I couldn't have said it better.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Sorry my ignorance but I only see two big problems in this issue: inflation and a huge waste of taxes on defence spending just because a country (nobody ever cared about) is childish to not accept his reality and acts selfish with European Union.

    Wow, I wish the world cares about Syria, Afghanistan or Africa as much as with Ukraine. Everything would be so damn different.
  • Taxes
    It depends on life costs. Japan is a very expensive country and Tokyo has a lot of costs related to transport, real state, rents, etc... so no. 200K per year as a Japanese worker is middle class.

    It is true that in Spanish perspective is different. Sadly, our sh*t ass tourism economy says that you are rich if you earn more than 65.000 € per year. We are clearly poorer than Japan. They are the 3rd economy of the world and we are 16th.
    A filthy pit of tourism and restaurants.

    But hey this is not about richness but efficiency: while Japanese government offers 7.500 euros to help families live outside Tokyo, here our reckless government only offers 200€ to pay a rent. Our politicians don't care about us and they waste the public spending in stupid stuff.
  • Hyper short stories.
    Poster

    Warning!: the building is under construction. All electronic materials are not operative.

    I have read while I got stuck in the elevator...
  • Letter to Aristotle
    Also, I met your great, great, great, great, great, great, great, grand daughter in Osaka, Japan.Agent Smith

    What?
  • What are you listening to right now?
    Good morning :flower:

  • Bannings
    Never underestimate what you can learn from trolls with a personality disorder. Or what you can teach them.Joshs

    Hats off :up: :100:

    I remember you also took part in his thread about recognising greatness. I think it is an original topic and his arguments were well defended.

    Or probably is just my own view because I have personality disorder :smile: :wink:
  • Taxes
    And spending never slows…NOS4A2

    Never will... it is frustrating to see how modern states borrow themselves far more than they can afford.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Why can't they just quit their resistance to the invasion and let Russia rampage over the rest of the country? No one would care (except for Ukrainians, but they aren't even a people, so they don't count).SophistiCat

    Not all the Ukranians are opposed to Russia. The more closer you go to Russian border you would see that their citizens root for Russia instead of Western world or NATO. This is a complex issue and it is not about all Ukrainians are against the invasion. Probably, the citizens of Kiev are nationalists but I doubt if the citizens from Jerson or Crimea have the same feelings.
  • Taxes
    Well, if this public expenditure would go to science and real state it would be acceptable. But it will be vanish in defense spending...

    Zelensky's selfishness and Putin's incompetence is destroying all the savings of workers in many countries.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Also Poland was as much responsible for WWII as Hitler and Stalin.SophistiCat

    The subject is different. While Poland is country with his own history, language, culture and system, Ukraine is basically a little Russia. Putin's behaviour is not good and he is responsible of criminal wars.
    But please... don't let the nationalists as Zelensky say that they are "Western world" and so "different from Russia" when they even share the same alphabet. In the other hand, we do not see any move by Ukraine to end this war... he is acting selfish and is choking the world economy just for his nationalist business. He is acting like the rest of the world is not in trouble...

    Did Poland act as Ukraine is now acting? I think not...

    This war has to end and Ukraine must accept his reality.
  • The Prevalent Mentality
    What do you think of these thoughts?Bug Biro

    I don't get the correlation between prevalent mentality and "inequality" that ends up with psychosis. I just see all your arguments very twisted.

    Most "sane" people blindly comply or consent to the mistreatment of themselves and others. Most people deemed "insane" placed faith in friends, family, and authorities undeserving of trust and were devastated by betrayal.Bug Biro

    These are very general arguments. Not all the persons act with the same pattern. There is not an absolute truth towards of how the individuals or authorities should act.

    People are tranquil of unjust societies and at peace with being controlled by severely corrupt, if not absolutely evil, governanceBug Biro

    I think not. Look at the revolutions of Iran or Peru.

    Most of the governments are corrupt anyway... so it is very difficult to make a comparative with those who live under a government with zero corruption.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Lula has said that Zelenskiy is "as responsible as Putin for the war".ssu

    He is right.
  • Bannings


    Understandble. I comply the resolution. :up:
  • Bannings
    Banned Bartricks for a consistently disruptive and insulting attitude. Long overdue really.Jamal

    I have debated with Bartricks in some threads. I am sorry if my arguments or behaviour were one of the causes of his disruptive attitude.

    I have never written in Bannings thread because I understand that every member must respect the rules of the forum, and even after notice him, he keeps the same attitude, is understandable de banning.

    Nevertheless, I will miss him because I interacted usually. My feelings are weird...
  • Recognizing greatness
    Believing that one is great does not imply that one is indeed great.

    Which serves to raise the issue, if your "greatness" is unrecognised, then by what criteria are you great? If at all?
    Banno

    :up:
  • Recognizing greatness
    There were two inter-related points I was making. First, the great will believe themselves to be great, for that seems to be required actually to be great. Second, the great will 'know' that they are great - not simply unjustifiably believe it - for their belief in their own greatness will be based on their having discerned it. So they have available to them evidence of their own greatness that others - most others, anyway - will not have access to.Bartricks

    Understandable. But what I don't see is why you are using a logical premise system to describe the greatness of an artist. According to your analysis, it looks like that it is necessary to reach premise 1 and premise 2 to reach the greatness in a work.
    Again, I still think your points are only the way you see them. There are other artists who don't think about themselves that they are "great" but nonetheless, they are amazing creators and most of the people recognised them.
    So, the evidence in greatness is a complex cause. As I said previously, we are debating about abstract concepts such as art and literature. Whatever you think is great, it could be in the average for others. Just look at Picasso. There are a lot of people who really like his works, but in the other hand, others who just don't see his talent...

    Where is the evidence of Picasso's greatness?
    Picasso never thought he was great. He painted trying to change the rules of his period.
    Each artist has their own specific context.

    That's also why they are not necessarily guilty of any arrogance just by virtue of believing themselves to be great. They are analogous to the doctor who believes that the mole is cancerous and is unfazed and dismissive of the fact all of your friends believe it to be benignBartricks

    No, I don't see any analogy here. The doctor is doing his job and putting in practice his knowledge after years of studying. Doctor gives me an analysis of the cancerous mole. He doesn't think about himself: I am great so I guess this mole is cancerous...
    That's what every doctor does. It is his job and what is being paid for.
    Sorry but I don't see a correlation between the practice of medicine and abstract practice as art or literature.

    He did. Read his letters. He considered his first proper masterpiece to be the potato eaters. He fell out with his best and only friend at the time precisely because that person - also an artist, though a very inferior one - criticized itBartricks

    What I said: arrogance.

    I have made a philosophical case for the great being aware of their own greatness: to be great is to be able to recognize what is great - for how else would one go about producing great works or thoughts without exercising that ability? And to be great is to have done great things, which one could not do unless one attempted to do them - something that requires belief that one can do them.Bartricks

    But be able to recognise what is great we should define greatness in the first place and I don't think it is easy to find out a definition of such abstract concept.

    What is the meaning of greatness Bartricks? Do you consider yourself as great?
  • Taxes
    Tax hike in Japan due to defense spending. The Ukraine-Russia war is impoverishing every middle-class family in the world.

    Tax hike plan for defense spending OK’d, despite lack of schedule

    Kishida on Dec. 8 announced that Japan would need 1 trillion yen (ONE F*CKING TRILLION) ($7.3 billion) more in tax revenue by fiscal 2027 to fund the defense spending increase of 17 trillion yen over the five-year period from fiscal 2023 through fiscal 2027.

    Although the research commission agreed that personal income, corporate and cigarette taxes would be raised, it put off until next year a decision on when those increases would kick in.

    The government, in turn, could end up planning specific programs and projects to enhance the nation’s defense capabilities amid uncertainties overhow the measures will be paid for.

    Under the research commission’s plan, a 1-percent tax will be tacked on to the personal income tax to pay for defense, while the special tax for reconstruction from the 2011 natural disasters will be cut from 2.1 percent to 1.1 percent.

    The cigarette tax will be gradually raised for a total hike of 3 yen per cigarette.

    For fiscal 2027, the government and ruling coalition are seeking to secure between 700 billion yen and 800 billion yen in corporate taxes and about 200 billion yen each in cigarette and personal income taxes.

    But with no specific start for the tax hikes, it is unclear if those figures can be reached.

    Japan to increase defense budget by ¥1 trillion in fiscal 2023
  • Brazil Election
    Read Mishima and Ishihara and you would understand me.
  • Brazil Election
    But their internal political status has no impact on China, Japan or South Korea?universeness

    No. Not at all. I guess there is some influence around NATO political affairs, but I don't see big impacts on Japanese or Chinese internal political decisions.
  • Brazil Election
    My position that in our current global society, what happens in America is unhealthily aped globally, remains.universeness

    No. Whatever happens in America doesn't usually have important impact in Asia. We think we are copies of USA because we live in Western world (the world they dominate). But these political conflicts will no have any effect in Japan, South Korea or China. They just see the things completely different from us.
  • Hyper short stories.


    Good hyper short story. I liked it because I can't stop imaging the specific picture where a family express those interjections while the phone is ringing. A very simple and original scene :up:
  • The Subject as Subjected: Self vs Identity in Our Social Context
    But we do have a metaphysical conception of self. And I disagree with Allan. The reason why you recognize this discordance within the social context is because you believe in a metaphysical self, too.Caldwell

    :up:
  • Recognizing greatness
    First, you're thinking that brilliant people are also virtuous people. There's no necessary connection. Brilliant thinkers and artists think they're brilliant. Whether that is consistent with being virtuous or not is beside the pointBartricks

    I am not thinking there is a connection between brilliant and virtuous. Both concepts are so opened to interpretation. It wasn't even my original thought in this debate.
    Well, to be honest with you, (now that you referred to such concept) I personally think virtue is something we should take care of in terms of art. It is not indispensable to hold virtues to be brilliant, but at the same time not everyone is capable of painting or writing. So, those who are capable are at the same time, virtuous.

    Second, how is one arrogant if one believes that oneself is brilliant on the basis of discerning it?Bartricks

    You didn't mention any basis in your previous arguments. You just said that: "if we think we are brilliant, we would be capable of doing good works. If we don't think positive about ourselves、we would never try anything"
    I already said that I am (more or less) agree with your point: yes, it is necessary to believe we are doing something "great" to keep doing our goals and works. But thinking "I am great" no matter the circumstances could be a symptom of arrogance because there will be always people who would not like our works and we have to accept it.
    Again, I still think that, paradoxically, the great masters never thought they were greater than the rest. We are the ones who classified them as "great".

    When a doctor judges that the mole on your arm is probably cancerous, and that same doctor is dismissive of the judgements of your friends, who all judge the mole just to be a mole, is the doctor being arrogant?Bartricks

    The friends are the ones who are acting arrogantly here. The doctor is doing his job. (I guess we are both agree in this case)

    So, when Van Gogh judged his own works to be masterpieces and dismissed the views of those who judged them to be childish and silly, he was not being arrogant. For his works were indeed masterpieces and he was perceiving this quality in them.Bartricks

    To be honest, I doubt Van Gogh ever judged his own works as "masterpieces". He thought he was doing different art from the rest and criticized those who didn't understand as childish because they weren't aware of such a good artist.
    Nevertheless, this is not a good argument or conclusion in favour of Van Gogh. Art is an abstract interpretation. You are free to interpret it they way you want. I think is respectful to don't see Van Gogh as good as he (supposedly) seen himself.
  • The Shoutbox should be abolished
    0⃣javi2541997

    Windows doing weird maths for me. I am scared now... Probably someone is hacking my computer. That's what happens when you use DuckDuckGo.
    0⃣
    
  • The Shoutbox should be abolished
    I see. I thought I wasn't able to call him friend, mate, buddy, etc... Because I didn't meet him yet inside this online symposium.
    Nevertheless, you are right. I think the word user represents the nothingness or the zero 0⃣ in terms of computational digits.

    I think I should call him for his name now on.
  • The Shoutbox should be abolished

    If you are worried that much I promise my comment was not lascivious.
  • The Shoutbox should be abolished
    Not only interesting, but also a thoroughly decent fellow.Jamal

    Good to hear such honourable attribute in a person. I wish I can meet him one day too.
  • What are you listening to right now?
    It’s too early in the day for vaporwave!Jamal

    I am alone in my room studying law because I have an exam tomorrow. Vaporwave gives me a relax mood! I am in the perfect environment to listen it!
  • The Shoutbox should be abolished
    Mayor of Simpleton joined at the beginning of TPF,Jamal

    His profile information is full in Japanese! So cool :cool:
    I wish he can shows up around TPF again, he seems to be an interesting user.

    Edit: I start following him. Just in case he comes back.