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  • Changing Sex
    It isn't from a scientific perspective. How has it become so accepted as a concept?Andrew4Handel



    It depends on educational system and how modernity has increased in the recent years. Until 1992 these people were considered sick for UN. but in the recent days, there is not problem at all for being a transexual, except for all of those countries which are religious.
    I think it has become accepted because (Western civilization) made a tendency of inclusion during XXIth century. It is well seen when a country does not prosecute the so called minorities.
    I the other hand, I do not really know if we really reached a good point of empathy towards LGBTIQ group because far-right political leaders and parties are increasing a lot... But why should they be bothered about transsexuals? I can't answer... They say, this system of progress destroy the traditional concept of "family"

    More than being accepted, I guess we all should respect it, just for empathy
  • Very hard logic puzzle


    I think the OP has to clarify what is the extension in our "answers"
    You put three digits (xxx) in your example, but I thought we were free to think whatever. That's why I typed "Púrpura"
  • Very hard logic puzzle


    It is relevant because he is asking for a character in the first question. Where I get the character then? This is why I thought about an adjective. Trying to be original
  • Very hard logic puzzle
    Another chance @DavidJohnson
    I guess you are just asking for the headings
    a [...]
    b [...]
    c [...]
  • Very hard logic puzzle
    PúrpuraMichael

    What is the third character (number, letter, or symbol) you will type to solve this?

    I was thinking about Púrpura because it was the first word that came to my mind
  • Very hard logic puzzle


    But it is impossible know the characters previously the word though.
    Púrpura comes firstly and then the characters
  • Very hard logic puzzle
    I feel I got catfished in this puzzle
  • Very hard logic puzzle
    Characters are single lettersDavidJohnson

    Then, why you said there are only three characters in "púrpura"
    I clearly see seven characters: p (1), ú (2), r(3), p (4), u (5), r (6), a (7)
  • Very hard logic puzzle


    Sorry, what do you mean as characters? Syllables?
  • Very hard logic puzzle


    Okey I am thinking for like half an hour what I am supposed to answer in this puzzle.
    Am I forced to answer something related to abc?

    Because what I was thinking is: púrpura (purple)
    So, my answer:

    "r6p"
  • Is the World Cruel?
    Is this system based on cruelty, or is cruelty a silly notion that melodramatic humans make up? Is there something else at play?Ree Zen

    I would not say if "cruel" is the exact but "selfishness". The humans, in their period of progress and evolution, made a lot decisions destroying others just to improve their lives.
    We tend to be dangerous, yes. But I guess we are "cruel" when all those enjoy making harm to others.
    I think you do not need to feel "cruel" just because you eat animals, you are human and that's our necessities. Do not get into the fake thought of "feeling better because I am vegan and I am not eat animal or species"
  • Can literature finish religion?
    Is this for an academic qualification?Amity

    No, it is just that I am curious about Japanese literature, specifically Kawabata.

    What were your conclusions after reading the article?Amity

    I think he reached what Japanese mind looks like but in the ancient times, like previously to 1945 when literally everything changed to Japan.
    It is important to highlight how Kawabata describe two important pillars to their books: loneliness (most of the characters tend to feel lonely in unique ways) and the role of Geisha (it is strange, but it seems that their characters pay to stay with Geishas just to pursue some affection, not sex. Nevertheless, I think they do not reach it at all)
    To understand how important the Geisha role was, I think we should get into a deeper knowledge on Japanese culture.

    How much of it is a true reflection of himself, his thoughts or no thoughts ?Amity

    It is known that Kawabata was a lonely man. He lived in Osaka, in an abandoned house where only a few friends or disciples can go there, you can see a video here: Kawabata and Mishima.
    I personally think he developed with pride what Japan looked like through his books: green tea, haiku, silence, the art of expressing the snow, geisha, etc...
  • Can literature finish religion?


    I see your point that they are clearly different aspect with different proposes. But where I disagree with you is in the fact, you shared, that religion finds out truth. I guess this is exactly where Kawabata made the debate. For him, probably literature is the only available matter where we can pursue freedom because we are opened to write/read whatever we like.
    But, in the other hand, religion tends to be dogmatic, because you would not see religious books of killing God, loneliness, suicide, etc...
  • Can literature finish religion?


    I do understand. That's why I started this thread. Trying to find an answer from you all
  • Logic of Omnipotence and Suicide


    It could be too because we humans tend to imagine things bigger or better than us, paradoxically...
  • Can literature finish religion?
    @Amity

    Just an opinion or comment I found about his speech when he received the Nobel Prize:

    Kawabata definitely does not link himself to European literature; he identifies himself very clearly and very strongly with the Japanese aesthetic tradition, first with the tanka poetry of medieval Zen priests, then with the tea ceremony, calligraphy, flower arranging, landscape gardening, ink painting, ceramic art, and, ultimately, the whole range of spiritual values stemming from the Zen Buddhist discipline developed in Japan in the 11th, 12th, and 13th centuries, but informed by the nature imagery of cherry blossoms, maple leaf, autumn moon, and winter snow derived from the fundamental Shinto values and the classical literature of even earlier centuries. Kawabata obviously saw himself as peculiarly Japanese-- and took great pride in that fact.

    In his Nobel Prize speech Kawabata made definite and strong connection with the Zen tradition of emptiness. I personally like that formulation, that the best thing an old man can learn to do is to drink tea from an empty cup.
  • Can literature finish religion?
    “A Matter of Life and Death”: Kawabata on the Value of Art after the Atomic Bombings Mara Miller

    The article might answer some of your questions re education and knowledge (Section III).
    Either way, it provides substantial and clear information. I have a better appreciation of Kawabata.
    "So just who is this Kawabata and what does he know about this matter of art and survival?"
    Read on!

    Already seen it. Yes, pretty clarifying and interesting indeed. There are a lot of papers around which helps a lot
  • Can literature finish religion?


    It is in Spanish the papers I have about Kawabata's life and works. Some of them are even commented by Mario Vargas Llosa (Nobel Prize 2010). These papers comes from editors as emecé. They are -supposedly- pretty aware of Kawabata life and what he was thinking during the books, interviews, etc... It is important to put in context that those are literally translated from Japanese.
    Anyway here ks the text translated into English by myself.

    Kawabata Yasunari, Nobel winner of 1968, killed himself at age of 73 but even he wrote more than twelve thousand pages, he did not leave a not or poem about his tragic decision.
    Despite the political crisis of WWII, Kawabata was off his political and social context of Japan. He was a the mentor of Yukio Mishima.
    The works of Kawabata are connected to loneliness and the problem of eroticism. Atheist but with a lot of respect on Shintoism. He prophesied that literature would substitute religion.


    Sorry but I do not have more about him rather than some notes of the translators. But here: Kawabata it looks like Yasunari was referring to the relationship between women and men when he shouted that phrase rather than a critique to religion as a dogma.

    Here I share with you another paper that is so interesting and can clarify some ideas: KAWABATA'S UNREQUITED LOVERS
  • What Constitutes A Philosopher?


    Well, yes. My answer was based on a Western point of view. I guess in this side of the world, philosophy is taught starting with the Greeks.
    Asian and Indian culture/philosophy is more specific because sometimes is even unknown due to their complexity. You have to get deeper to understand it
  • Ukraine Crisis
    propaganda and info warsApollodorus

    These are even the main starting point of every war. We live in an era full of fake news and disinformation. Spreading a lot of lies can lead the people to follow the wrong path.
    This conflict is clearly a good example. There are a lot of information floating around that makes a paranoia feeling when we do not really know if a war would happen in the coming months.
  • What Constitutes A Philosopher?


    I think it is important to highlight two key facts about "what constitutes a philosopher?"

    1. Own philosopher. I mean, the person who is interested in the discipline of thought which comes from Ancient Greece. I guess we want from this person a good analysis and ability of reasoning when we debate with him about all categories related to philosophy itslef: ethics, virtue, time, death, uncertainty, etc...

    2. Academic philosopher. Those who pursue a degree and then reach a PhD in philosophy or "liberal arts". I guess these are the one who are able to put more worked arguments on the table to confirm or confront the theories which constitutes philosophy. They also tend to write some interesting articles or books in prestigious areas as universities or editors.

    What should we expect from a philosopher? I guess both are good and acceptable. But in my opinion, I want in my university a teacher who owns a PhD in philosophy.
  • Can literature finish religion?
    Kawabata – who's major works (& those of Mishima) I'd devoured back in the mid-1980s – could not foresee this ubiquitous, 24-7-365, social media dark age.180 Proof

    It feels like we made a step backwards whenever I see something like dark age of social media (specially Facebook, Instagram, tik tok, etc...) nowadays, young people seems to be easy manipulative. A lot of fake news and disinformation.
    About Mishima! What an excellent writer and good pupil of Kawabata. Should we consider that he predicted the decadence of humanity in his works? More than the intelligence, I guess both was referring to the act of making art through books without dogmas. I mean, seeing literature (overall) as a manifestation of culture not marketing.

    Nevertheless, I read in a interview of Murakami: "Japan is no longer like Mishima's and Kawabata's books"...
    Whatever we like or not, we are forced to change during the decades. But it feels like our society did not change for good
  • Can literature finish religion?
    Christian fundamentalism, like Islamic fundamentalism, is reactionary -- a reaction to the very culture that might lure them away.Bitter Crank

    Sure they are, and also we have to keep them in mind. But when we start something as "Christian" or "Islamic" I guess you are already surrounded by a "dogma" whatever you like it or not... Even if those are perfectly reactionary
  • Can literature finish religion?
    Defeat" is an interesting word. Is literature at war with religion? Not entirely.Tom Storm

    You are so right! When I read it I thought it was a brave phrase to start a debate with. Until this day it is still opened about what Kawabata was thinking.
    I do not say it is "war" neither but I guess it is closer to the development of culture and values, which for atheists, tend to be so far from religion, because religion - itself- is just a dogma and then probably the quote is connected to the art of writing with pure freedom
  • Can literature finish religion?
    Glad your back!Bitter Crank

    Glad to be here debating again with you! :100: :up:
  • Can literature finish religion?


    I see your point that all of those components of what we call as culture cannot face religion. But what I see from Kawabata's thought is that (somehow) religion is pretty far from literature and then all forms of culture itself.
    We can match this argument to this idea: "encouraging people into culture and books could get them away from all forms of religion"

    When you read complex novels or see philosophical operas/dramas you make a step forward of how you see the world. Supposedly, not that dogmatic from a religious point of view.

    But yes, as you wrote previously, these facts cannot end religion at all
  • Can literature finish religion?


    Perhaps the more important question is whether they are to be understood as distinct.

    Yes, that's right. If we consider it as distinct matters, we can put literature itself on the equation. Then, we can argue and understand what Kawabata said. Speaking about literature about something related to values, culture, ethics, etc... That is somehow an opposition to religion.
  • Can literature finish religion?


    I got the context from an interview he had among other Japanese writers. They were debating about the art of writing poems and books. He hinted on the debate that literature could defeat religion.
    It is important to keep in mind that Kawabata was atheist... Probably this could be connected to.
  • Can literature finish religion?


    Yes, he was referring to all types of religion.

    Are Kojiki and Nihon Shoki distinct from literature?

    To be honest I do not know because this is why the phrase was so controversial. Probably this debate is correlated to the famous old question: Who came first? Philosophy or Greek poetry?
    I guess we can match it to that way...
  • Can literature finish religion?


    It is another interesting point of view indeed but I guess his quote was not close to it because Kawabata was a really lonely person back in the day... So probably he did not wonder about fulfil our lives that much.
    Yes, there is some aspects about him to consider of. His discourse was titled: Japan, the beautiful. His self where we can see a lot of examples of where Japanese writers and poets reach (somehow) nirvana or something related through literature. Probably, he was closer to promote the imagination rather than believe in "dogmas"
  • Cartoon of the day
    @Amity

    I remember discussing with you political/social cartoons the last summer. Here I going to share another one with you because whenever I see one of these I quickly have good memories about the last summer when we shared the opinions on the cartoons!

    XSuV0ED.jpg

    You can see a skeleton literally voting :rofl:. The cartoon is a satire about how fake and corrupt were the Spain's polls back in the day. It is known that political senators or deputies put the vote of citizens that were already dead...
  • Does God have free will?
    Is "God" free to commit suicide?

    Can "God" cease being "God"?
    180 Proof

    Furthermore of randomness, I think those questions can be related to human weakness in a sense of debating about the worthy of life. Religious and theists tend to say that "Men is made of God's image" but paradoxically, we as men, can only truly debate about "ceasing" "suicide", etc... Because God is supposed to be upon all of these "weaknesses" and "sins"
    It even sounds contradictory.
  • God and time
    First, the view entails that we have to say things such as "before time." For example, one can say "God existed before time." But it makes no sense to use temporal language, such as "before," to describe a period in which there is no timeRaymond Rider

    Yes, I am agree with you in this point. But probably what theists tend to argue is that God is such omnipotent. Therefore, he is not affected about human basic rationalism. We can debate and argue about time because it is literally something affect us. But it is supposed that God is (at the same time) a "being/non being" or "he is/not everywhere", so he is not affected neither bothered for something as time.
    We can say here then, that probably for God and theists some aspects as time is just worthless.
  • Bushido and Stoicism


    Completely yes. Bushido culture is not well known as much as Japanese culture itself. In my own consideration I think it would be worthy to teach both Bushido and Stoicism. But, being honest with you, I do not really know how effective these could be among modern ethics. We live in a violent world and it seems we are somehow losing the humanism.
    Conclusion: A comeback of these disciplines could be worthy but I still defend we have to reorganise the education and society from the beginning
  • Philosphical Poems
    Original: Koshibai no nobori nurekeri haru no ame Masaoka Shiki (正岡 子規)

    Translated: The flags
    of the tiny theatre have been wet...
    Spring rain.

    Las banderas
    del pequeño teatro se han mojado...
    Lluvia de primavera.

    I really love this haiku poem because it brings me some nostalgia about my childhood. I guess Masaoka is recording that period of time where you can make a lot of activities outside with your friends,family, etc... Despite the fact it has been raining, it is not bothering us because it is a spring rain where probably a rainbow would show up later on, pretty different from a winter/fall cold rainy day!
  • Logic of Omnipotence and Suicide
    could he cease his own omnipotence?InvoluntaryDecorum

    Very interesting question. That's why I also defend no because in some terms it looks like omnipotence is related a being/not being state
  • Currently Reading


    It is similar but with some different tones. I think the magical realism of "Sputnik, sweetheart" is not close enough to 1Q84. Nevertheless! It has that Murakami atmosphere that you can check in most of the books: loneliness, random grils out of nowhere, Metaphysic conversations, nostalgia, etc...
  • Logic of Omnipotence and Suicide
    he could even commit suicide? Why or why not?Corvus

    I think not because an omnipotent subject has not in their mind the debate or thought of being a worthy value. It is that powerful or superior that the subject itself cannot handle about "human emotions" dilemmas.
    A normal human being can be settled in some issues as "is this life that worthy?" or "why I do deserve this?", etc... Which can put you on the fragile of gap of committing suicide.
    But in an omnipotent subject these matters cannot even exist because it is already a being/non being... Right?
  • Currently Reading
    Japanese literature:

    Seven Japanese tales by Junichiro Tanizaki.
    The Temple of the Golden Pavilion by Yukio Mishima
    Sputnik, sweetheart by Murakami.
    A personal matter by Kenzaburo Oe

    But specially dedicated to Kawabata Yasunari:


    • The dancing girl of Izu
      Koto
      The house of sleeping beauties
      Snow country.
  • The Motivation for False Buddha Quotes
    What is it about Buddhism that seems to invite so much ignorant but confident misrepresentation or even invention?

    As @StreetlightX pointed out so accurate previously, I also think is opportunism with a mix of marketing. Back in the 1960's and 1970's was so common travel along Asia (Nepal and India specially) because Buddhism was cool and take drugs like ecstasy or trippies was funny. You end up having ignorant tourists visiting countries with a complex religion and customs. Also, it is even scary how marketing was part of it making and selling t-shirts or even tattoos. The famous music band called Nirvana was clearly part of it. But you can find out many other examples like the hippy wave.