Potentially, you can remember the sequence (though it is highly unlikely the sequence is random, but thats another issue). the problem with computer memories is that if one memory spot is occupied it cant participate in a memory for another object. Thats where neurons come in handy. :smile:

it’s fairly realistic and doesn’t offer much in the ways of positivity. — Dante

Why is that? What in that view makes it negative? The reality of people being MF's?

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You know, the mind probe has to be a rather complex but not necessarily complicated thing, it should have on board the latest "equipment" available in the fields of consciousness, memory, psychology. My wild ideas. Pay no attention! — TheMadFool

I DO pay attention. My inner space has been probed by your comment... I can refine the probe (Im not sure if you mean a physical probe; but I dont assume) by refining my questions over and over again, like I can refine my questions to external Nature. The latter can involve sophisticated experimental set-ups. That can also be the case for exploring the internal Nature. Or in exploring you, being the one between the internal world and the outside one.

So you can eat shit and enjoy it, like I do. — Prishon

Whaaat? Are you kidding? What is wrong with you? Are you mentally retarde? :lol:

No man steps in the same shit twice. But a person stepping in any shit again is probably inevitable. — Nils Loc

Pprobably inevitable? It's inevitable or not. Stepping on shit for the second time is inevitable. But one guy's shit is other's food. So you can eat shit and enjoy it, like I do. The shit of reincarnation, especially when it's inevitable, tastes magically. So eat it or leave it.

BTW, you are "talking" to a computer programmer, who refuses to work with idiots! :grin:) — Alkis Piskas

Good one! :lol:

Yes, it causes natural disasters. — Hello Human

Yes indeed. Or maybe UN-Natural disasters. A forrest fire (also occuring more and more) and floodings took place in all of history. But the way they do now is disturbing balance. Like that mechanized fishing of the worldseas.

The depression? Yeah, it’s pretty persistent. Only reading reduces its severity. — Dante

I know the feeling! Terrible! What kept me going was the thought that it *hd* to go away some day. But time moved so slowly! Thoughts popped up about my past. About who I was as a kid. Sometimes shocking. All kinds of thoughts. Including how to kill myself. But then ALL would be gone (although I am certain about reincarnation there is something withholding me from suicide; every shitty feeling is gone indeed but also the potential to get relieve). I took heroin, and other stuff. Like oxazepam, from which I was " cured" last year because my supplier died and I didnt have the keenness to buy it on the net. Luckily, because I dont need it now anymore. Though physicalky I wanna take one... I didnt sleep 4 months!!! Four months! Now Im physically recovering. I take a dose of methadone each day. But that doesnt take away a depression itself. It only keeps it down and the beasts roars the more if wakened. But its gone now! It just did. Maybe because I have a clear worldview now. Do you have one? A clear wirldview?

they — javi2541997

:up:

I mean before answering. Im not implying you bother me!

persistent — Dante

Let me pause for reflection for a second!

depression — Dante

Are you still jumped by it?

Are you still jumped by it?

I layed in bed for years in my whole life. The depression is now gone forever, I hope...

I forgot one space...

Now the problem is: why doesnt my smiley smile? :smile:

Ah! Done already!:smile:

And also, I still cannot work out how to quote… — Dante

Okay. I have highlighted your text. If all functions well there becomes visible a black button with white text "quote". Tap on it with your finger and the selected text appears in a next comment opportunity. :yum:

The laughing feeling indeed corresponds to some complex reaction in the brain (and not to forget, the body!). But what if this physical process has no content? No magical content?

see no reason at all why we can't construct a mind probe (an old idea but, till date, only employed for nefarious objectives) that can travel in mind space and either return with information or somehow "broadcast" it back. The most interesting thing about the mindspace, germane to this our discussion, is that it doesn't seem to be temporally restricted/constrained insofar as the past is our area of interest - memory. — TheMadFool

You could do this. The probe being questions.

It’s a nice sentiment, but every emotion is a physical process produced by physical processes, reducing us to a husk if you wish to go that far. I don’t see the magic in the being. — Dante

I use a phone too. Select the text you wanna quote and tap the quote button right uo. I had the same problem. Like that the one you react to gets notified.

If there would be matter processes only, how can there be a feeling of funniness? Because of the complexity? Then an electro colliding with a proton have consciousness too. But elementary.

Human memory capacity looks tiny compared to it — Alkis Piskas

You can think of every process in the universe. The memory capacity of brain is larger than that all computers together.

Consciousness improves the chances of survival and thus that is why it was naturally selected. — Dante

I dont agree. These things could also happen if consciouness was absent. Imagine... You laughing with and there would no feeling in the processes corresponding to that nice feeling that accompanies laughing when you find something funny. You would be an empty physical process. That is, the physical shell around your inner world and the outside world would laugh in vain...

I am ten points ahead of you.. :smile:

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Inference: Life proceeds death because death precedes life. — Dante

That's a vacuous statement.

In another comment:

: "Life is a chemical system that uses energy to to keep itself from reaching chemical equilibrium."

That doesn't address consciouness. Its what is factually (materialistically) going on, but it makes a flower equal to a human. It are the processes of my inner world (made possible by the physical processes going on in the physical world outside) and the non-physical, qualia-like content they have that make consciousness. The hard consciousness problem is solved this way.


So consciousness is easy to explain while at the same time a wonder. God exists!

Or night...

Have a nice day!

It's a fact though that all particles in our universe are matter ones and not antimatter (though the rishon model, of which Im a big fan, tells the contrary). If all mass in the universe were converted in energy (photons) were would the mass be to let the photons work on? Would the photons be pure information (energy)?

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A mass, say that of an electron-positron pair, can be changed in two massless photons. What can you do with that? You can give more motion, and thus more possible states, to other matter particles. You can ionize an atom, you can warm up a gas.

Damned! Cant download! No rights...

I think you mean when converting rest mass to energy. How much energy this gives and thus information?

Energy is math. related to entropy. Do you mean this?

the mass - energy - information equivalence principle?

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Im not sure I follow you. You mean the information in the information paradox concerning black holes? Or how much information is contaied in a mass?

The pharmaceutical companies are to blame for all the shit. They manipulated an ordinary Corona virus and let it loose on the world. Hidden safely in their shelters waiting eagerly for the right moment to give the already constructed vaccine to the asking world. To provide a supply. With dollar-filled eyes.

lightning — Prishon

If I think of a face, there is an analogue structure visible in the brain.

Nice reply.

the — jgill

An approach known as ‘shut up and calculate’.

Obviously the wrong approach. What if you dont wanna calculate and shout out?

that — Wayfarer

"To be objective is to be free from bias and wishful thinking"

The one never can be objective.

often — 180 Proof

Why do you use the word babble? In Dutch "babbelen" means chatting cheerfully. Im not sure this is what you mean. Does it mean you dont agree?

Weeeellll, aybe like this:

Information is the equalisation of different forms by assigning a number to them.