I was talking about the quote erroneously celebrating IRA

Jack Rogozhin You show zero interest in discussing philosophy, all your posts are on Ukraine and US politics and bear no relation to anything cited on your profile page. — Quixodian

No, I have great interest in discussing philosophy. Political discussion is eminently philosophical as it entails issues of ethics, ontology, epistemology, Marxism, and existentialism. Are you saying Marx, Fanon, Gramsci, Derrida, and Levinas--political philosophers all. Are you saying they weren't being philosophical when discussing politics? I wouldn't think so. The fact you're on this political thread, and fired up and raging at me, proves otherwise

The Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 is the most significant climate legislation in U.S. history, offering funding, programs, and incentives to accelerate the transition to a clean energy economy and will likely drive significant deployment of new clean electricity resources.

The GOP is determined to roll back all of this. Trump showed no interest in the environment. calling global warming a hoax. — Quixodian

That quote is an anonymous, hyperbolic, and erroneous opinion. And Biden, as I have shown, Biden has been a terrible environmental president, granting more drilling licenses than Trump, backing the greatest eco-terrorist disaster by blowing up the Nordstream, and signing off on the terrible Willow project

Anyway, if you cool down, come join me on the Kant or Kierkegaard thread...I'll be checking those out next. Cheers

Biden has been worse on the environment than Trump
— Jack Rogozhin

Demonstrable bullshit, although I’m not going to press the point as you’re obviously trolling. — Quixodian

Clearly it isn't, as you fail to counter my point; so the one trolling is you

And this is a philosophical forum. So show it some respect by remaining adult and civil...instead of spewing childish vulgarities

You literally said American only TRIES to influence states and the actions are limited. Tell that to Afghanistan, Syria, Libya
— Jack Rogozhin
1. And Afghanistan is an Islamic Emirate today. — ssu

1. So what. That's their issue, not ours. You clearly dont' care about national sovereignty or sovereign borders. We/NATO certainly didn't help things by killing thosands of Afghani civilians, backing monstrous Afghan warlords, and stealing 7 billions of their money

2. Syria is still being lead by Bashar al-Assad with basically the civil war now won by him and neighboring states starting to normalize their relations. — ssu

2. Again you show you care nothing about a nation's sovereignty and yet complain about Russia violating Ukraines. Odd. That is Syria's business not ours, and we certainly didn't help things by bombing Syria, killing thousands of Syrians and backing head-chopping Jihadists to kill more Syrians

3. Yes, Libya is a mess...and there's a multitude of countries involved. Basically so-called allies of the US are on different sides supporting different groups. — ssu

3. Libya isn't just a mess; its' destroyed and has slave trades and had been one of the most economically advanced countries in Africa...before we violated their sovereignty and bombed and destroyed it. Again, we had no right to do that. It wasn't our country and we/NATO destroyed it. Lovely

So look yourself at how that influencing has gone. I will remain with my words: the US TRIES TO influence states, it doesn't control them and they aren't the helpless victims as you think they are in the face of your country. Clearly the World doesn't go the way people in Washington DC want it to go. — ssu

And again, bombing and destroying countries--or threatening or sanctioning them--ISN'T JUST TRYING to influence them...it is fascistically imposing our will on sovereign nations through violence, murder, and terror

Nuland even made implicit threats against Niger if they didn't turn the government back over to the deposed ruler....that is absolutely disregard and violation of sovereignty.
— Jack Rogozhin
Western countries, just like the ECOWAS, condemn military overthrows. Condemnation and sanctions are one thing. A military intervention or military action is quite different. We haven't yet seen what will happen in Niger, yet in the example of Mali, they just left. — ssu

This is hilarious. The US has pushed--often very successfully--coups in Cuba, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Chile, Venezuela, Syria, Ukraine, Australia, and many other countries...just this year in Pakistan. Where do you get your world history from?

The US is doing the same thing in Syria where they have multiple unwanted bases and soldiers where they steal Syria's oil
— Jack Rogozhin
Here is a perfect example of your totally ignorant attitude about the reality on the ground. Or then you simply paint with such broad strokes your World that it doesn't make much sense (other than US bad, those who oppose the US are good). — ssu

No, the ignorance is https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/syria.htmall yours here, and here's proof:

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/syria.htm

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-military-still-stealing-oil-syria/5790752

The US isn't doing the "same thing" in the countries of Sahel as it has done with Syria. With Syria Obama tried to start a war against the regime, but didn't get any of it's allies with it and backed down (Obama's famous line in the sand). — ssu

They certainly are as far as keeping unwanted bases and troops in another sovereign country. Do you think it would be OK for Niger to have bases and soldiers in the US? I don't

And the US had an absolute fiasco of trying to form a "politically correct" opposition fighters to fight the Syrian regime, which basically feared more about the fighters themselves being islamists or that the weapons would go to islamists. — ssu

Again, it wasn't their country. They had no right being there. Again, you are showing no care for sovereignty at all. And not wanting to send in murderous jihadists--which they did anyway--isn't just being "politically correct." It is keeping your illegal invasion less murderous than it already is

Yet the US hasn't attacked Nigerien forces. It has trained these forces, and these generals, that now took over. But for you such difference seem not to matter. You know the facts and others are just American jingoists. — ssu

It is certainly insinuating they will attack now, and the forces they trained don't want them anymore. And I am not calling you a jingoist, I am correctly saying what you are SAYING is American jingoism with no respect for national sovereignty at all. Your arguments make it clear you think America has the right to violate that sovereignty as they have done for almost a century

And to say I don't care about differences is erroneously impugning my motives instead of addressing my points

However, if you can show me where I have been impugning motived and intentions instead of arguing the facts, I would gladly correct that
— Jack Rogozhin

This is the worst of the bunch.

This is an outright lie.
— Jack Rogozhin — T Clark

Well, if that is the worst of the bunch, i've been far more courteous than some of my interlocutors who have accused me of being a Putin puppet....which is definitely impugning my motives. You should correct them as well

I will, however, avoid calling people liars unless they clearly lie about me

I don't believe I have been doing that

However, if you can show me where I have been impugning motived and intentions instead of arguing the facts, I would gladly correct that

I have no desire to disrupt things

Sorry, but none of those vague, unspecific suppositions counter what I showed above: Biden has been worse on the environment than Trump
— Jack Rogozhin

Canceling the XL and passing the IRA is hardly “unspecific suppositions.” They’re facts.

As far as the actions of the departments I mentioned— I can get into that more.

They exactly counter the claim that Biden is worse than Trump on the environment. — Mikie

Actions at the SEC, EPA, energy, and interior have all been much better than under Trump — by any metric. — Mikie

Your quote above was all opinion and suppositions; that's what I was talking about. And neither they, nor your mention of XL and IRA counter the claim Biden was worse than Trump on the environment in any way. My claim still stands true

In the sense that it’s not our only political move. I’ve now repeated that three times. Why is it not clear?

Voting is important. But it’s not the only thing we have. — Mikie

You have not made that clear and stop whining about it. Voting is important; so stop worrying about other peoples votes and stop voting for corrupt anti-environment, Zionist, pro-cop warmongers like Biden. And you don't have to tell me voting isnt all we have; it's presumptious of you to do so. I do lots of political and social work outside voting. What do you do?

And as I showed, votes going to West simply do not give a better chance to either Biden or Trump.
— Jack Rogozhin

Simply declaring you “showed” things is meaningless. You haven’t once showed that. You’ve made statements that it isn’t true. And I see no serious reason to believe it. — Mikie

I have showed it and showed I did. Your simply saying didn't doesn't change that. You're the one who has made untrue statements and I have no reason to believe them.

So you’re actually arguing that the Biden administration is worse than the Trump administration in terms of progressive values.

That’s insane to me. — Mikie

Yes I am, and I am correct. Your thinking otherwise is insane to me.

You really should educate yourself on the environmental record of the Trump administration. Your assessment is just ridiculous. — Mikie

No, you should really educate yourself on the environmental record of both trump and Biden. Your assessments have been ridiclous, not mine

Anyway, since you're now getting upset and being rude, we're done. Have a good evening and relax a bit

No

↪RogueAI Have you ever thought of joining the Azov Nazis?
— Jack Rogozhin

Those people that went to Israel for an official get-together? Mossad must have blundered royally. (incidentally Aug 2, 2023) The Nazi thing is straight out of Putinist newspeak. No, Ukraine ain't ruled by a Nazi regime as they propagandize. Old. You know, answering a question with a question like so is kind of rude (deflection, dodging). — jorndoe

No, Ukraine's official Nazi battalion. And the Nazi thing is just truth; your denial of it is straight out of CIA and Banderite newsspeak

Here you go, Stepan. Educate yourself for once...and brush up on your courtesies:

https://multipolarista.com/2022/02/23/nato-atlantic-council-ukraine-nazi-azov/

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/359609-the-reality-of-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-is-far-from-kremlin-propaganda

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-of-ukrainian-nationalists-march-in-in-honor-of-nazi-collaborator/

Only touchy one here is you. I asked a serious question. You seem to like the Azov Nazis a lot

Sure, but we also have the choice to vote against both, work towards building a progressive third party
— Jack Rogozhin

At the cost of electing Trump, I’m not sure it’s worth it. There’s ways to build a progressive movement beyond just voting. It starts in each state, and builds from there.

While Biden as a man might be repugnant and unacceptable, his appointments aren’t. In fact some are quite good. — Mikie

Of course it is as Biden has proven to be as bad, if not worse than Trump. And Biden's appointments: Blinken, Austen, Abrams, Tanden have been awful and awful human beings

We went backwards with Biden as he drilled more than trump, gave out more drilling licenses than Trump, pushed the horrendous Willow Project, and committed the worst act of eco-terrorism by OKing the sabotaging of the Nordstream pipeline
— Jack Rogozhin

But in the last two years, they also passed the IRA and canceled the Keystone XL pipeline, strengthened car emission standards, etc. Actions at the SEC, EPA, energy, and interior have all been much better than under Trump — by any metric.

That’s not to say it’s perfect or satisfactory— just better than the prior administration. I think that’s obvious. — Mikie

Sorry, but none of those vague, unspecific suppositions counter what I showed above: Biden has been worse on the environment than Trump

I think the problem is that too much is made about voting, as if that's our sole political power. — Mikie

If this is true, then you shouldn't worrry about people voting their conscience.
— Jack Rogozhin

Why? I didn’t say it isn’t important. It’s just not our sole political action. We should make sure we’re voting against the worst, ensuring the greatest impediment to our goals isn’t in office—then continue on with our work. — Mikie

Because you just said too much is made about it. And now you are making too much about it, actually worrying about my vote, even

It doesn't give Trump a better chance as neither Biden nor Trump own West voters' votes,
— Jack Rogozhin

Not owned, but most voting for West will have values and goals that will be much more likely to be obstructed (and in fact actively fought against) under a Trump administration than a Biden one. If we had ranked choice voting, I think Biden would come before Trump, in most cases.

That being said, these votes going to West (or staying home) simply gives Trump a better chance to win — at least in swing states. In Mass, it doesn’t matter much. In NH, it matters a great deal. — Mikie

It doesn't give Trump a better chance as neither Biden nor Trump own West voters' votes, and a vote for West is a vote against Biden AND Trump — Jack Rogozhin

Nonsense. As I showed, the strike-breaking, pro-cop, censoring, warmonger has been even more anti-progressive than Trump. So if you think voting West hurts Bidens chances, that's a good thing for West voters

And as I showed, votes going to West simply do not give a better chance to either Biden or Trump. You can keep erroneously saying otherwise, but it doesn't make it right

So I care about climate change. The IRA will help my neighbors and I get solar panels and heat pumps. That’s a good thing. Trump and the Republicans are literally running on dismantling all of that. If my voting for West just because it makes me feel better, ignoring the reality of a two-party system, comes at the real cost of electing Trump— I’ve shot myself in the foot. — Mikie

You clearly don't care enough about the environment as you are fine with Bidens' terrible environmental record, which is worse than Trump's

In the sad state of American political duopoly, it's going to be a Biden/Trump rematch. Those, unfortunately, are most likely going to be the choices. I prefer Biden in office -- not because I like Biden, but because I like a lot of his administrators and more of his policies than Trump's. — Mikie

Sure, but we also have the choice to vote against both, work towards building a progressive third party, and get across progressive messaging neither duopoly candidate share. Since I find both Biden and Trump to be loathsome and unacceptable, doing that and voting Cornel West is the obvious choice

The environment is a good example: would we have the IRA with Trump in office? Of course not. That's not to say it was what it should have been -- we needed much more than that. But it's better than going backwards. — Mikie

We went backwards with Biden as he drilled more than trump, gave out more drilling licenses than Trump, pushed the horrendous Willow Project, and committed the worst act of eco-terrorism by OKing the sabotaging of the Nordstream pipeline

I think the problem is that too much is made about voting, as if that's our sole political power. So people, understandably, want to vote their conscience. — Mikie

If this is true, then you shouldn't worrry about people voting their conscience. Everyone should vote their conscience

Yes, Cornell West is the best candidate. I wish he would become president and I hope he gains momentum. But if it comes to a Biden/Trump rematch, I don't see how voting for Cornell, however noble, doesn't simply give Trump (by far the worst of all three) a better chance at winning. — Mikie

It doesn't give Trump a better chance as neither Biden nor Trump own West voters' votes, and a vote for West is a vote against Biden AND Trump

Have you ever thought of joining the Azov Nazis?

Read my bio, champ

Who pays your salary?

Here's some reading on that Trade Union House slaughter of anti-coup Crimeans by pro-coup right wingers https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/ukrainian-rightists-burn-alive-39-at-odessa-union-building/

Your inference here makes no sense syllogistically or syntactically; motivations is neither mentioned nor implied. Again, you are imposing your erroneous belief and acting like it is a correct inference.
— Jack Rogozhin

But I wasn’t making an inference of the kind you suggest. — neomac

Yes you were

The problem however is not necessarily on denying such facts but on questioning if such facts are enough to support the claim that the Revolution of Dignity was a coup as Russia and pro-Russian propaganda claims — neomac

I agree here and this is what we should be discussing

I claimed “Ukrainian ethnic Russians and Russophone are still Ukrainians and must abide by Ukrainians rules”, but that’s it. “No matter what” is your spurious addition. — neomac

Yes you did, and it's reprehensible...and I made no spurious addition and you haven't shown I have. Using your inane, reprehensible logic, slaves should have followed America's rules for slaves and blacks in jim Crow should have followed its rules of segregation

First, if Russia didn’t spill violence and murder into Ukraine by supporting militarily the separatists FIRST, and so be a legitimate threat AGAINST Ukraine, its people and its territory (according to your own notion of “legitimate threat”), things wouldn’t as likely have reached such a scale to be a legitimate threat AGAINST Russia and its borders, assumed that’s the case. — neomac

This is an unfounded lie. What happened first is the US backed coup led to 50 Russian Ukrainians being burned alive in the Trade House and Donbass Russian Ukrainians rejecting the coup being shelled and terrorized by Azov Nazis. The fact you ignore that is also reprehensible. And calling it a "revolution of dignity" when it was a foreign-backed coup where citizens and police were executed by CIA-trained snipers is both erroneous and disgusting

I'm not.
— Jack Rogozhin

Yeah, you are. Just about verbatim. — jorndoe

No, I'm not, not in any way

Why are you a Russophobe?
— Jack Rogozhin

I'm not. So, bare racism accusation. Tu quoque style at that. — jorndoe

Yeah you are. Verbatim. And i made no racism accusation and you misused Tu Quoque

You can do better than this...or can you?

Why are you parroting Putinist propaganda? — jorndoe

I'm not. Why are you parroting CIA/MSM propaganda....remember Russiagate?

Putin has managed to create much hate (May 26, 2023; Aug 1, 2023) etc, not the least in Ukraine (Aug 9, 2023). FYI, it's come up a few times before. — jorndoe

More CIA/MSM propaganda...remember "Russian bounties"

Confusing Russophobia and anti-authoritarianism/anti-Putinism verges on accusing everyone of racism. — jorndoe

And I didn't do that. Why are you a Russophobe?

It asked and was given permission by their puppet ruler.
— Jack Rogozhin
Again the obsession of puppets. — ssu

Nope: correct assessment of the situation...again, you're glaringly wrong

Yes, these counties TRY to influence states, yet the actions are limited. They can influence only so much what events happen. Yet when fixated on the colonialists, domestic poltics and internal problems don't matter. — ssu

you've spouted such naive NATO/American jingoism
— Jack Rogozhin
Like what a failure the war on Terror has been? How bad it has gone?

Right, thta's American jingoism. Likely you don't care to read what I actually say. But see puppets everywhere. — ssu

You literally said American only TRIES to influence states and the actions are limited. Tell that to Afghanistan, Syria, Libya...and Niger; their actions there and many other places were hardly "limited". So, i clearly read what you actually said..,you clearly didn't

It's funny how SSU is so concerned about the sovereign borders of Ukraine, but cares nothing for the sovereign borders and sovereignty of Niger...or any other countries sovereignty the US has violated
— Jack Rogozhin
Because the US didn't attack Niger. Or it hasn't annexed parts of Niger. — ssu

The US doesn't have to attack Niger or annex to violate their sovereignty; it's very naive of you to think they do. They have bases and troops there against the people of Niger's wishes, they are trying to meddle in Niger's government throught Blinken and Nuland...Nuland even made implicit threats against Niger if they didn't turn the government back over to the deposed ruler....that is absolutely disregard and violation of sovereignty. The US is doing the same thing in Syria where they have multiple unwanted bases and soldiers where they steal Syria's oil

It asked and was given permission and then building the base in 2016 for Nigerien armed forces too. NIger then was feeling the pressure from islamists from Mali and Boko Haram from Nigeria. — ssu

It asked and was given permission by their puppet ruler. You clearly must think the Donbass just asked for Russias help when they separated from Kiev. Ironic. And the main threats haven't been their neighbors, but the American backed jihadists, many of whom France just freed to continue their colonizing, sovereignty-denying terrorism of Niger

I'm not sure you have much knowledge of everything, you've spouted such naive NATO/American jingoism

i have correctly shown where this has occurred.
— Jack Rogozhin
Just what have you correctly shown? What you have said is "Sorry, but the Niger coup against America, France, and their puppet government has the backing of the Niger people and is not evil". And then you have referred to Ukraine and Hungary.

That's not much and not very informative. — ssu

Yes, what i have shown there is correct. Feel free to show otherwise...you haven't yet

What is the role of US military in Niger?
— T Clark
I guess to fight GWOT. Or whatever under the Biden administration it is called.

As it's centrally located in the Sahel and up until now has been rather stable, it has a drone base in Agadez (Air Base 201) in the country and has about 1000 soldiers in the country. (The French basically have had their troops in the Niamey airport.) Being next to Mali, Libya, Algeria, Chad and Nigeria makes it a good place for drones that still have a limited range.



The war against the islamists came up in 2017 when a group of US special forces were ambushed in Niger close to the Malian border. — ssu

It's funny how SSU is so concerned about the sovereign borders of Ukraine, but cares nothing for the sovereign borders and sovereignty of Niger...or any other countries sovereignty the US has violated

Do only white European countries get to have sovereign borders and sovereignty? That would be pretty sad

↪Jack Rogozhin
↪T Clark

More than 20 were killed and hundreds were wounded when government forces attempted to retake the Maidan
Don't you see a difference between a genuine popular uprising and a military coup? — magritte

Yes, and Niger has been a genuine popular uprising and the Maidan coup was a para-military/Right Wing militia, US backed military coup

However, you said you were opposed to coups, period. So, you're either a hypocrite, or your criticism of the Niger coup has no validity

Sorry, but the Niger coup against America, France, and their puppet government has the backing of the Niger people and is not evil — Jack Rogozhin

What's the obsession with misrepresenting a statement of fact as "obsession with puppets"? What's with your obsession with denying the fact "first world countries" have always, and still have, puppet leaders in third (and even second and first) world countries. It's like you've never heard of colonialism, imperialism, or soft power
— Jack Rogozhin
What statement of facts. Seems like if previously you couldn't say anything about the reasons of Putins actions, somehow now Nigerien politics is quite clear to you and are facts. — ssu

I made clear my statement of facts. Read more carefully. And judging a person's internal motivations is a much different thing than judging external events. It's erroneous and weird for you to say otherwise

Perhaps don't seem to notice just how condescending it is to view everything evolving around the US and the Great Powers and everybody else being puppets, pawns and sycophants. — ssu

Thsi is a lazy strawman. I haven't viewed everything evolving around the US and Great powers and everybody else being puppets. i have correctly shown where this has occurred. Your rosy-colored view of the US and Europes "Great Powers," however have kept you from doing so...and glaringly

Yes, these counties TRY to influence states, yet the actions are limited. They can influence only so much what events happen. Yet when fixated on the colonialists, domestic poltics and internal problems don't matter. — ssu

This is an outright lie. Go ahead and tell the people of Vietnam, Chile, Australia, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Cuba, Congo, and others that these countries only TRY to influence states...the numerous coups, wars, and bombings they have sufferec from these "great powers"--and the millions of deaths they caused--greatly say otherwise

In the case of Niger coup, we still don't know the reasons. Yet if President Bazoum had forced generals into retirement and it's alleged that he was trying to retire the 62-year old general Tchiani, wouldn't that be a reason for the general to do a military coup and then get support for by playing the populist / anti-colonialism card? — ssu

We have great idea what the reasons are. And no, the reason you propose is purely selfish. You really think the people of Niger want France and US there to take their uranium and their soldiers there to threaten and kill them...odd considering how offended you are by Russia's presence in Ukraine (The Russian Ukrainians of the Donbass certainly want them there), and how much you support the Maidan coup (you clearly aren't opposed to coups).

Or these US trained officers just suddenly felt this anti-colonial vibe and went for it?

And isn't Bazoum then trying to influence the US when he is asking them for help and portraying that Wagner is behind it?

Besides, the real danger is if ECOWAS really would go with it's ultimatum and the nations would go to war, which is totally catastrophic. — ssu

Question 1: I never said that...you really do like to strawman people...not a good habit for a Philosophical debater

Question 2: No

Ecowas statement: No

Do you understand the concept of a someone running as a third party splitting the vote which ends up helping the opposition to win? It's the same concept here. If I voted for Cornel West in the general election, that is a vote that could have helped Biden win against Trump. If it is close, enough votes for Cornel West (or someone else) could result in a Trump victory. That is what I mean. — GRWelsh

Yes, it is an erroneous concept. The vote is nobody's to spoil and nobody owns any vots. Also, if you voted for Cornel West in a general, that is a vote that could have helped Trump win against Biden.

No, Trump is worse by orders of magnitude. Trump wanted to make millions of votes for Biden not count in the 2020 election. That is Putin-level authoritarianism. — GRWelsh

I already showed Trump isn't worse than Biden, and Biden is worse in many ways than Trump. Biden and other Democrats spread the Russiagate lie to try to get Trump overthrown and make millions of Trump votes be negated

What does a vote against Putin do in Russia? I feel bad for Russians. They don't... — GRWelsh

This is irrelevant to our discussion, but indicative of a Russophobia that our media and the Democrats (and many Republicans) have fomented in the last six years


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Yes, I definitely agree. The Maidan coup has been a disaster, particularly for the Ukrainians

My point was that one can't condemn one coup on the principle coups are bad and then support a coup they like

I haven't submitted a definition of "fascism" so you're falsely attributing a position to me I haven't taken. — Benkei

But you clearly have a definition of fascism or you have no place criticizing mine. So, you either use one--and we both know you do and are being disingenuous--or you don't and are just wasting time

The only kindergarten rage here you in your last post. You can't show where I showed any...and haven't yet

And I showed very well how his policies have been fascist. So, your denial of it, and rage over it, is just silly. Anyway, I have no time for your anger; I'm moving on. I hope you find calm today

And many definitions of "fascism" include elements conveniently excluded from yours...So, yours--according to you--must be cherrypicked and wrong

Yes, and your claim was wrong. And deviating defintions from one definition doesn't prove ti wrong. That's absurd. ALL definitions have competing ones. Using your bad logic, they all--including yours--must be wrong...again, that's absurd

I read and counted perfectly fine. And if there's no such thing as an official definition, then you have no place telling me my definition is incorrect, particularly by positing your incorrect one

And providing multiple definitions is not a good thing. It just shows you can't decide which one is correct and don't know what you are talking about. I suggest focusing on, and positing, the one you think is best

LOL...you accuse me of cherrypicking my official definition of fascism by actually cherry-picking your own

Yes, wonderful exaggeration and cherry-picked definition. — Benkei

No, it was neither, but that was a wonderfully, and entirely, supported assertion by you

I don't disagree with everything you said but come election day I may not have a choice since not voting for Biden will be equivalent to handing the election to Trump which is the worst case scenario — GRWelsh

No, not voting for Biden and voting for Cornel West is voting for Cornel West, just like not voting for Cornel West is not the equivalent of not voting for Trump

Biden is a worse authoritarian than Trump. Biden wrote and pushed a racist fascist crime bill; Trump didn't. Biden greatly backed the fascist Iraq War; Trump didn't. Biden literally broke a strike--a foundation of Democracy; Trump didn't. Biden has wasted billions on authoritarian NATO's fascist war and Ukraine's fascist Azov Nazis; Trump said he wants to end the war. Trump is terrible, but he certainly isn't more authoritarian than Biden

Sorry, but the Niger coup against America, France, and their puppet government has the backing of the Niger people and is not evil
— Jack Rogozhin
What's the obsession with puppets? — ssu

What's the obsession with misrepresenting a statement of fact as "obsession with puppets"? What's with your obsession with denying the fact "first world countries" have always, and still have, puppet leaders in third (and even second and first) world countries. It's like you've never heard of colonialism, imperialism, or soft power

Yet Bazoum representing Nigerien Party for Democracy and Socialism won the elections in 2021 from a former president of Niger Mahamane Ousmane — ssu

Winning elections doesn't keep a ruler from being a puppet for another government. Remember, those defending the Maidan coup have accused Yakunovich of being a Russian puppet, as they have Orban. Do you think they are entirely wrong?

Btw Ousmane had been also thrown out of power by a military coup and there had been one failed coup against Bazoum already in 2021. So were they both puppets or what? — ssu

You have to unpack and explain this one better because it doesn't make sense as is

And coup against America? France, definately yes, US perhaps not: — ssu

Are you kidding? America has a base and thousands of troops in there and the new regime clearly wants Western imperialism/colonialism out and management of tis own Uranium. The fact America sent Gloria Nuland (of the Maidan coup) to threaten the new regime unless they stepped down, and demanded to meet with their deposed ally (likely to abet that) helps prove that. The fact the new regime rebuffed her and sent her packing certainly does

We're stuck with Biden, because what's the alternative? — GRWelsh

The alternative is rejecting the Zionist, warmongering, anti-labor, pro-fascist police, and anti-environmentalism of Biden and the rest of the Duopoly and begin building a non-imperialist, compassionate, environmentalist third party conscious of the working class, and right now that best option is the Green party and Cornel West, who, unlike Biden an Trump, is a good, compassionate man against War and for all Americans, not just the rich

No, I used fascist correctly: "an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization." This certainly applies to Biden and his government, and he's neither tough nor competent

He has:

Crushed a major strike
Increased the budget of our fascist, racist police force by billion
Increased the budget of our fascist, imperialist defense department by billions
Given over a hundred billion of our needed dollars to Ukraine, their Azov Nazis, and NATO and its war

We do not have a functioning American democracy and Biden has been as fascist, if not more fascist, than Trump

What's this peculiar desire to pick so old people as representatives? — ssu

At 70, Cornel West is practically a kid. He's also a brilliant Marxist scholar and the best candidate out there

Sorry, but the Niger coup against America, France, and their puppet government has the backing of the Niger people and is not evil

If you think so, you must think the Maidan coup in Ukraine was evil to, no?

Well said

Such as the absolute political power and money of the American and French governments and the puppet governments serving them