Like I said - what you say is absurd. — charleton

Why?

You are trying to convince me that we can only carry on if we tell our children fairy stories? — charleton

I am not trying to convince you of anything. Just stating something as I see it.

And it is not just the kids that get fed fairy tales so that they buy stuff, it is even happening to you and me.

Have you read much on Astronomy? — Banno

If you are interested in the stars, you might like this program.

http://www.stellarium.org/en_GB/

So who thinks cannibalism is a bad thing? — Banno

That is a loaded question. I could answer one way and appear to be weird, or comment on not minding munching certain pieces of meat and be a sexist. X-)

Before you ask 'why', you need to consider if your question is best framed with 'how" — charleton

For most of the content of the post why is the correct question. You would not ask how people feel bad would you?

Excuse me???
I think not!
Care to justify that absurdity? — charleton

Think about it, the economy would probably collapse if people, especially the kids, stopped believing all of the stuff the are told.

I can't say who my favorite Sci-Fi writer is, there are so many I have read. I usually just stick to trying to remember the ones I did not like, it is easier.

Back in the early days of Sci-fi it was probably a lot easier to come up with new, novel ideas because anything was possible still and people were excited at any new idea. I feel sorry for the new writers that try to follow in their footsteps, trying to come up with new ideas that even school kids would not laugh at must be hard.

Why? — Kim

You are like me, the rest just don't want to know.

Well, that's your fault for not starting with Prelude to Foundation. — Akanthinos

Unless I am very much in error, the prelude was written many years after the Foundation series. So Banno nor anyone else could have started with it.

Asimov is miles ahead of Heinlein. >:o — Akanthinos

I never said he was not, just that I read them both when I was a kid. But that is your opinion so you stick to it.

And the correct measurement would be light years.

A touchstone to determine the actual worth of an "intellectual" - find out how he feels about astrology.

For a writer that spent a lot of his time writing about people going to the stars, I guess that astrology would seem kind of stupid.
I used to read his and Asimov's books when I was a kid. I doubt that he had much faith in people that had strong feelings about finding their future by the position of the stars instead of trying to get to them.

Why can't doubt be doubted? — guptanishank

That seems to be exactly what you are doing here.

If a few hundred thousand ugly wrinkled up (but mobile) old people were to go to Washington, undress, and begin having group sex on the Capital Mall, and elsewhere -- on the Capital Steps, in congressional office anterooms, in Abe Lincoln's lap, National Public Radio's studios, and all around the White House, — Bitter Crank

Now I am going to have nightmares. Thanks a lot. :(

94,360,953 — Bitter Crank

Minus 1. I only tried once and was not an enthusiastic participant. X-)

(I like his apology by the way and I don't think this should end his career. There's a world of difference between him and rats like HW.) — Baden

PR stunt. He is trying to get them off his case so that he can continue with his life. Would you not do the same and try to calm the waters before another 30 women show up.

OK, I agree he is a weirdo. He has funny ways of getting his rocks off but he is certainly not alone in that area. How many people like to have sex out in public because they like being watched.

A while ago there was a video of a couple having sex while waiting for the train, plenty of people saw them. All they can be prosecuted for is public indecency, not for sexual assault or abuse of the people that were there.

Another case many years ago where I used to live was about a good looking widow. She invited the eighteen year old son of her neighbor to view her through his bedroom window into hers while she was pleasuring herself. Dad and Mom found out. If I remember correctly she got a suspended sentence and he got a lifetime of kinky memories. Life is not fair.

But, in general, people are inquisitive and interested in new things or at least if it serves their goals (college setting). — Posty McPostface

And here I think lies the problem. What are the goals of kids today? And what are the goals of the schools?

Most of the teenagers I know have just one goal, enjoy. And sometimes they are not even sure what they want to enjoy or how to do it.

Most educational systems that I know about have a major problem, they people that work in them are on about the same pay level as health and security workers. And they are all below what one would expect for three of the most important supports of society.

I do agree with your opinion that more teachers are needed, but I believe that the job definition needs to be drastically realigned with the needs of tomorrow.

https://teachingandlearninginhighered.org/2013/07/15/preparing-students-for-what-we-cant-prepare-them-for/

Basically, that with so many people around the world, who are curious and inquisitive, that we ought to have more teachers in the world to help guide them in their spiritual and epistemological development. — Posty McPostface

Have you been in a school classroom recently? Most kids do not have much interest in learning.
"Why do I need to know this? If I ever need this information I can find it on the internet" is something I hear every single day.

I have a student that cannot speak English properly but is developing a Pakistani or Indian accent because of the amount of times he watches tutorials on Youtube. The internet has taken a lot of the teachers influence over kids away.

Shhh. — Banno

That reminded me of a TV advert in England, Maybe early 70's.

Sch weppes.

How many of those guns in circulation that we keep hearing about are ever actually used to kill people? — WISDOMfromPO-MO

Since there are supposed to be millions of guns in the USA and only a few thousand gun deaths and counting that quite a few of those deaths were probably caused by the same gun being used multiple times I would calculate a small percentage of the guns were involved. But that is only my guess.

Did you ask him for his sources? X-)

The ultimate goal of all humans is to be happy — TheMadFool

You did not get this from the internet did you?

2. There are more reasons to be sad than happy — TheMadFool

Maybe you have not found what makes you happy yet. But I think that there are probably an equal amount of reasons to he unhappy as there are to be happy.

Having kids for some people is happiness, for others it is a burden.
Having no kids for some people is happiness, for others it is a sad incompleteness.

So no, we don't have to have a reason to be happy, we can just accept things as they are and smile about it.

But we do need reasons to be unhappy.

(Y) (Y)

Ah, just venting... my ex is trying to move with my 2 daughters to a city 6 hours away. Pretty sure she won't be able to, but still causes unneeded stress. I currently live 5 minutes away, and see them over 80 times a year. She wants me to see them 12 times a year! >:o — CasKev

I understand how you feel. Both of my EX's moved to other continents and I never got to see my kids.

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If you know of someone that is trying to make public on the WWW any information that is not true call the following hotline and receive your reward.

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Assuming that’s a true story, forty people who waste a college education. — praxis

College education is not a 24/7 way of life, you do have free time occasionally. We also had competitions to see which group could put more people in a telephone booth or mini car. And a lot of other pranks.

This reminds me of the time when I was a teenager and I waited at the side of the road for a car to stop to let me cross. Then, once a car had stopped, I stuck my middle finger up at the driver and walked away from the road without crossing. — Sapientia

When I was in college we used to play follow the leader. Sometimes there were 40 people. The first would stand at the side of the road and just and wait for a car to stop. When the car was getting ready to move the next one would step out. You can imagine how that went on. That used to get people pissed of.

When someone you're with says "sorry" to someone, follow it up with "I'm not". — Sapientia

I usually say "Yes you are." and they look at me really weird. Most people don't know they other uses of sorry.

She can't have her cake and eat it too. Especially when her cake is actually our cake! — CasKev

What cake?
Where the hell is it?
Who is trying to eat it?

Okay, i will try to get something bigger although my goals focuses on sharing thoughts and what other people could think of. — Scalpounet

So what you need is bigger ideas to hit people with. When I said get something big to hit them with I did not necessarily mean sticks.

My guess is yes but lurking because you are back in school teaching those that are following after us. — ArguingWAristotleTiff

Our school year starts in February and end in November so we are just about finished. Lucky me.

it's like herding cats with a squirt gun! X-) — ArguingWAristotleTiff

Bulls, like herding big stupid bulls and nowadays they can be just as dangerous. Kittens can be led or at least bribed to to things.

To fight without the slimmest chance of victory is foolish, don't you think? — TheMadFool

Doing foolish things and being foolish are 2 different things.

But the old bastard is still in business so he must have something going for him.

I read(listened to) the book a years or so ago I think it was. I remember that I found some parts of it interesting but don't remember what.

I'll have a look at the video and maybe get back to you.

I have no idea what that means. :-O — Lone Wolf

Tell her which part you don't understand, I'm sure she will explain in simple words. X-)

No further discussion only because we all accept the Devil is evil — TheMadFool

No we don't.

and this doesn't affect my argument that he is impotent and a fool. — TheMadFool

If he is as impotent as you seem to think, where does he acquire the power he wields? And while it is true that a lot of rulers are stupid, he rules a massive empire as a sole dictator so he cannot be that much of a fool.

The omnimalevolence part is obvious and needs no further discussion. — TheMadFool

No further discussion?

To show that he is evil, I think that you should start by defining what evil is.
Morally objectionable behavior
That which causes harm, destruction or misfortune
The quality of being morally wrong in principle or practice
Morally bad or wrong

Based on morality, the devil is only evil to people that use god as a moral guide.
Based on causing harm, exactly what harm has the devil caused?

To fight or rebel against an omnipotent being (God) is clearly a stupid thing - moron. — TheMadFool

So you think it is stupid to fight for the things you believe in? Most people think that their bosses are omnipotent so the never bother asking for a raise. They are stupid.

Compared to an omnipotent being (God) anyone, even Satan, is obviously impotent. — TheMadFool

That might or might not be the case, but just as many people fear him as believe in god.

How would you define Satan then?

As an angel that has fallen and now opposes god.

Well, in this case, they most likely didn't realise that the forum has been fucked for the past two years right up to the present.

If this is the case, why the hell are they even trying to go there when they don't know how to read.

The shoutbox tell everyone that the place is dead.

Given that the Devil is the exact opposite of God,

The devil is not the exact opposite, he is a lesser power altogether. He is not a god but a fallen angel.

I didn't know you could link to a Pandora station. Anyway, I've just started. It isn't that populated yet. — T Clark

I'm not sure if you can link to it, Pandora is not available here, but I thought that if someone has a link to a stream I might be able to listen in.

I've just set up a Pandora station from that era. Gary U.S. Bonds, Beachboys, Otis Redding, Buddy Holly, Little Richard, Dion. Such wonderful music.

OK, fantastic. :D

I had a collection of about 4500 singles and maybe 1000 LPs of music from between '54 and '65.

Where is the link? 8-)

That was a great time for music. It showed the world what not to do.