She can't have her cake and eat it too. Especially when her cake is actually our cake! — CasKev

What cake?
Where the hell is it?
Who is trying to eat it?

Okay, i will try to get something bigger although my goals focuses on sharing thoughts and what other people could think of. — Scalpounet

So what you need is bigger ideas to hit people with. When I said get something big to hit them with I did not necessarily mean sticks.

My guess is yes but lurking because you are back in school teaching those that are following after us. — ArguingWAristotleTiff

Our school year starts in February and end in November so we are just about finished. Lucky me.

it's like herding cats with a squirt gun! X-) — ArguingWAristotleTiff

Bulls, like herding big stupid bulls and nowadays they can be just as dangerous. Kittens can be led or at least bribed to to things.

To fight without the slimmest chance of victory is foolish, don't you think? — TheMadFool

Doing foolish things and being foolish are 2 different things.

But the old bastard is still in business so he must have something going for him.

I read(listened to) the book a years or so ago I think it was. I remember that I found some parts of it interesting but don't remember what.

I'll have a look at the video and maybe get back to you.

I have no idea what that means. :-O — Lone Wolf

Tell her which part you don't understand, I'm sure she will explain in simple words. X-)

No further discussion only because we all accept the Devil is evil — TheMadFool

No we don't.

and this doesn't affect my argument that he is impotent and a fool. — TheMadFool

If he is as impotent as you seem to think, where does he acquire the power he wields? And while it is true that a lot of rulers are stupid, he rules a massive empire as a sole dictator so he cannot be that much of a fool.

The omnimalevolence part is obvious and needs no further discussion. — TheMadFool

No further discussion?

To show that he is evil, I think that you should start by defining what evil is.
Morally objectionable behavior
That which causes harm, destruction or misfortune
The quality of being morally wrong in principle or practice
Morally bad or wrong

Based on morality, the devil is only evil to people that use god as a moral guide.
Based on causing harm, exactly what harm has the devil caused?

To fight or rebel against an omnipotent being (God) is clearly a stupid thing - moron. — TheMadFool

So you think it is stupid to fight for the things you believe in? Most people think that their bosses are omnipotent so the never bother asking for a raise. They are stupid.

Compared to an omnipotent being (God) anyone, even Satan, is obviously impotent. — TheMadFool

That might or might not be the case, but just as many people fear him as believe in god.

How would you define Satan then?

As an angel that has fallen and now opposes god.

Well, in this case, they most likely didn't realise that the forum has been fucked for the past two years right up to the present.

If this is the case, why the hell are they even trying to go there when they don't know how to read.

The shoutbox tell everyone that the place is dead.

Given that the Devil is the exact opposite of God,

The devil is not the exact opposite, he is a lesser power altogether. He is not a god but a fallen angel.

I didn't know you could link to a Pandora station. Anyway, I've just started. It isn't that populated yet. — T Clark

I'm not sure if you can link to it, Pandora is not available here, but I thought that if someone has a link to a stream I might be able to listen in.

I've just set up a Pandora station from that era. Gary U.S. Bonds, Beachboys, Otis Redding, Buddy Holly, Little Richard, Dion. Such wonderful music.

OK, fantastic. :D

I had a collection of about 4500 singles and maybe 1000 LPs of music from between '54 and '65.

Where is the link? 8-)

That was a great time for music. It showed the world what not to do.

RIP
Fats Domino dead at 89.

Another great one left the world.

Virtual heckler... congrats, you succeeded hissing on a philosophy forum. :-} — TimeLine

I certainly am not, a heckler that is. But I could be virtually anything if I wanted.
I had to read the second part twice, I thought you had accused me of wetting the forums walls.

I want to discuss the process of thoughts. — Scalpounet

Mankind's basic thought process towards growth can be summed up fairly easy.

Get something bigger to hit it with.

Hmmmm now we need something to celebrate at the end of the day. Maybe Happy End of Everything Going Wrong? — Lone Wolf

Expect

Restless Tossing and Turning for a Long Long Time. — Lone Wolf

How many lightbulb jokes does it take to screw a comedian? — Baden

About as many as it takes to screw up a joke thread on a philosophy forum.

Good night.

A man walks into a bar with a parrot on his shoulder.
The bar man says that there are no pets permitted.
And where the fuck am I going to tie him to if I leave him outside? Asks the parrot

How many women does it take to change a light bulb? — Michael

None. That's one of the few things men are useful for.

In other words, Genghis wasn't afflicted by a sickly inability to use force. Maybe Lenin and Stalin were his students. Lenin once said that there was no place in the regime for that "quaker and papist nonsense about the sanctity of human life". — Bitter Crank

He was worshiped as a hero in his time. The speed of the empire's growth was unheard of in those times and for many years to come. Total destruction of everything that opposed them as they moved, stopping only to collect the riches from the conquered. It must have been scary as shit knowing they were coming.
If the Khans had continued to rule those that surrendered to them and continued to collect tributes for centuries who do you think would have been a world power today? What language would we be speaking?
I shudder to think what someone like that would be capable of in today's world.

Genghis Khan, quoted by an historian:

Genghis Khan “The greatest joy a man can know is to conquer his enemies and drive them before him. To ride their horses and take away their possessions, to see the faces of those who were dear to them bejeweled with tears, and to clasp their wives and daughters in his arms.”

For Genghis the meaning of life is conquest, theft, suffering, and rape. Note what does not even make the list: the love of a child or the passion of a woman or the joy of creating or the excitement of achievement.

Genghis was a predator in practice.

In his son's, Ogadai, life time was when the bigger part of the empire was acquired. The total time was only about 60 years.

And the British even better. — Banno

Yeah, but they did not do it all in one man's lifetime.

Long live the Khan.

Up until then folk pretty much left each other alone. — Banno

But the Mongols did it better and more of it.

How many Irishmen does it take to change a light bulb?
Five.
One to hold the bulb.
Two to pick him up and turn him.
One to read the instruction manual.
One to get the Guinness.

Growth is a relatively new fetish. I blame Alexander. — Banno

Genghis Khan and his killing of millions as he rampaged through Asia and Europe started it all.

a human is trying to survive, which constitutes his primary objective. — Scalpounet

This is confusing. You state here correctly that humans' primary objective is to survive, then you say that he was doing so by growing. Humans barely managed to survive for thousands of years with little or no growth. As the traveled around searching for food there was no way the could accumulate possessions because there was little to actually possess and there was even less worth carrying around.
Several developments made it possible for them to survive easier.
Taming animals and planting(not agriculture) made no difference to their main objective, it was still survival.
Learning to breed captive animals (domestication) and the beginning of agriculture still only made it easier to survive because the population had started to increase. But this made it necessary for them to spend most of their time in one place.
Once there was enough food available and they had learned ways to store it life became easier, and then it was possible for the groups to maintain a certain number of craftsmen that specialized in creating things that again made life easier. Now they had things that they could own and a place to own it.

but rather an application for acceptance in a long term care facility — ArguingWAristotleTiff

Mental or physical health care?

Who, not that. — Hanover

Depends on the person that you are talking about I guess, a true grammar cop would have noticed the slight immediately.

Will everyone please go snipe at each other on the Shout Box. — T Clark

That telling them.

Bad grammar can have serious consequences. For instance:

Let’s eat, grandma!

vs

Let’s eat grandma! — praxis

Both are grammatically correct, the difference is the punctuation.

The child's imaginary friend disappeared when his childhood disappeared, but you get entirely diverted by the word "puff" and declare it an ode to marijauna. — Hanover

I had a bad experience with that damned dragon a few years ago. I woke up one morning with the song "Puff the magic dragon" looping in my head. I spent the whole day with it spinning around in there. The funny thing is that I had not heard the song since I was a kid and that was a loooooong time ago.
At the end of the work day I was leaving and a teacher from the primary area asked if I could help her with something. She pulled out a book about Puff the magic dragon. I almost took of running.

And you are probably right about it being about a boy growing up and forgetting his friend.
And "puff" then turned into something completely different.

Some say the song is about drugs and whatever, but to me it's clearly a sentimental song about little boys growing up. — Hanover

And doing drugs and whatever.

Monica's to advance her career and Willey to continue on his pattern of taking advantage of women who fall at his feet, without getting caught? — ArguingWAristotleTiff

Personally I think it was probably her idea that they got caught so that she could become famous. But I, like everyone else in the public don't and probably will never know the whole story.

I really don't like the idea of anyone with authority using it like that, as a man it is not the correct way to behave no matter what position you hold. But shit happens.

They were consenting adults and she could have walked away. If she was as good a worker to have a position that put next to a president she could have found work anywhere. But she wanted and accepted the deal that was offered so that makes her just as responsible as the idiot with his fly open.

How would the people have seen things if Hilary had been the president and she was caught getting some nooky? Would the people have cried fowl as well?

So if I fast and contemplate — MysticMonist

This includes abstinence from sex, booze and television. Unless the TV show is a philosophical competition game where at least one fasting member of the following religions are participating. Jewish, Catholic, Anglican, Muslim, and Southern Baptist. Sex is also permitted if it is shown on said TV show.

Both are relevant and what Bill did to Monica is a perfect example of a person of power using that for/or against a woman he has a sexual interest in. — ArguingWAristotleTiff

Both are relevant and what did Monica to Bill is a perfect example of a person of power using that for/or against a man she has a sexual interest in.

They were both to blame. Buttheads

A guy walks into a pub and puts a bucket on the bar.

He says to the barman "Give me a pint of bitter and fill the bucket with mild".

After downing his pint he walks out of the door with the bucket in hand and returns a few minutes later to repeat the process.

After the guy has repeated it four times the barman had become curious enough to ask wht he was doing with the bucket of mild. "You ain't givin' that beer to some kids are yer?"

"No." replies the man "It's for my magic elephant." With that he walks out with the next round.

When he returns the barman asks "Are you pullin' me leg about the elephant?"

"No, not at all. He is right outside, go and look."

S few minutes later the barman returns with a shocked look on his face. "That's a big bastard ain't he, but I don't see nothin' magical about it. What he do that?"

"He makes love to cats"

Amid howls of laughter from the crowd of drinkers the man walks out with another round followed by the happy boozers.

The barman comes up with a cat and says "I just gotta see this. I'll bet a weeks beer yer talkin' shit. What does it take to make him get it on with the moggy?"

"Well usually he does not do public performances but for a bet like that OK. Just put the cat down in front of him and back off"

When the cat is sitting in front of the elephant the man whispers in his ear "Do your stuff big boy"

The elephant lifts its might leg and stamps down on the cat.

Has anyone ever heard the magic elephant joke?