• The world needs more teachers
    Basically, that with so many people around the world, who are curious and inquisitive, that we ought to have more teachers in the world to help guide them in their spiritual and epistemological development.Posty McPostface

    Have you been in a school classroom recently? Most kids do not have much interest in learning.
    "Why do I need to know this? If I ever need this information I can find it on the internet" is something I hear every single day.

    I have a student that cannot speak English properly but is developing a Pakistani or Indian accent because of the amount of times he watches tutorials on Youtube. The internet has taken a lot of the teachers influence over kids away.
  • The Quietism thread
    Shhh.Banno

    That reminded me of a TV advert in England, Maybe early 70's.

    Sch weppes.

  • Why does it take mass murder with guns for people to notice and condemn violence?
    How many of those guns in circulation that we keep hearing about are ever actually used to kill people?WISDOMfromPO-MO

    Since there are supposed to be millions of guns in the USA and only a few thousand gun deaths and counting that quite a few of those deaths were probably caused by the same gun being used multiple times I would calculate a small percentage of the guns were involved. But that is only my guess.
  • The Last Word
    Did you ask him for his sources? X-)
  • Do we need a reason to be happy?
    The ultimate goal of all humans is to be happyTheMadFool

    You did not get this from the internet did you?

    2. There are more reasons to be sad than happyTheMadFool

    Maybe you have not found what makes you happy yet. But I think that there are probably an equal amount of reasons to he unhappy as there are to be happy.

    Having kids for some people is happiness, for others it is a burden.
    Having no kids for some people is happiness, for others it is a sad incompleteness.

    So no, we don't have to have a reason to be happy, we can just accept things as they are and smile about it.

    But we do need reasons to be unhappy.
  • The Last Word
    Ah, just venting... my ex is trying to move with my 2 daughters to a city 6 hours away. Pretty sure she won't be able to, but still causes unneeded stress. I currently live 5 minutes away, and see them over 80 times a year. She wants me to see them 12 times a year! >:oCasKev

    I understand how you feel. Both of my EX's moved to other continents and I never got to see my kids.
  • What pisses you off?
    News flash, the latest on the web.

    World governments eliminate all source of fake news and offer rewards to all that denounce people creating news that is false.

    If you know of someone that is trying to make public on the WWW any information that is not true call the following hotline and receive your reward.

    555-4321 or 123-4567 if you are in Washington DC.
  • What pisses you off?
    Assuming that’s a true story, forty people who waste a college education.praxis

    College education is not a 24/7 way of life, you do have free time occasionally. We also had competitions to see which group could put more people in a telephone booth or mini car. And a lot of other pranks.
  • What pisses you off?
    This reminds me of the time when I was a teenager and I waited at the side of the road for a car to stop to let me cross. Then, once a car had stopped, I stuck my middle finger up at the driver and walked away from the road without crossing.Sapientia

    When I was in college we used to play follow the leader. Sometimes there were 40 people. The first would stand at the side of the road and just and wait for a car to stop. When the car was getting ready to move the next one would step out. You can imagine how that went on. That used to get people pissed of.
  • What pisses you off?
    When someone you're with says "sorry" to someone, follow it up with "I'm not".Sapientia

    I usually say "Yes you are." and they look at me really weird. Most people don't know they other uses of sorry.
  • The Last Word
    She can't have her cake and eat it too. Especially when her cake is actually our cake!CasKev

    What cake?
    Where the hell is it?
    Who is trying to eat it?
  • Growth
    Okay, i will try to get something bigger although my goals focuses on sharing thoughts and what other people could think of.Scalpounet

    So what you need is bigger ideas to hit people with. When I said get something big to hit them with I did not necessarily mean sticks.
  • The Last Word
    My guess is yes but lurking because you are back in school teaching those that are following after us.ArguingWAristotleTiff

    Our school year starts in February and end in November so we are just about finished. Lucky me.


    it's like herding cats with a squirt gun! X-)ArguingWAristotleTiff

    Bulls, like herding big stupid bulls and nowadays they can be just as dangerous. Kittens can be led or at least bribed to to things.
  • The Definition of the Devil
    To fight without the slimmest chance of victory is foolish, don't you think?TheMadFool

    Doing foolish things and being foolish are 2 different things.

    But the old bastard is still in business so he must have something going for him.
  • Daniel Dennett - From Bacteria to Bach and Back: The Evolution of Minds
    I read(listened to) the book a years or so ago I think it was. I remember that I found some parts of it interesting but don't remember what.

    I'll have a look at the video and maybe get back to you.
  • The Last Word
    I have no idea what that means. :-OLone Wolf

    Tell her which part you don't understand, I'm sure she will explain in simple words. X-)
  • The Definition of the Devil
    No further discussion only because we all accept the Devil is evilTheMadFool

    No we don't.

    and this doesn't affect my argument that he is impotent and a fool.TheMadFool

    If he is as impotent as you seem to think, where does he acquire the power he wields? And while it is true that a lot of rulers are stupid, he rules a massive empire as a sole dictator so he cannot be that much of a fool.
  • The Definition of the Devil
    The omnimalevolence part is obvious and needs no further discussion.TheMadFool

    No further discussion?

    To show that he is evil, I think that you should start by defining what evil is.
    Morally objectionable behavior
    That which causes harm, destruction or misfortune
    The quality of being morally wrong in principle or practice
    Morally bad or wrong

    Based on morality, the devil is only evil to people that use god as a moral guide.
    Based on causing harm, exactly what harm has the devil caused?

    To fight or rebel against an omnipotent being (God) is clearly a stupid thing - moron.TheMadFool

    So you think it is stupid to fight for the things you believe in? Most people think that their bosses are omnipotent so the never bother asking for a raise. They are stupid.

    Compared to an omnipotent being (God) anyone, even Satan, is obviously impotent.TheMadFool

    That might or might not be the case, but just as many people fear him as believe in god.
  • The Definition of the Devil
    How would you define Satan then?

    As an angel that has fallen and now opposes god.
  • Leaving PF
    Well, in this case, they most likely didn't realise that the forum has been fucked for the past two years right up to the present.

    If this is the case, why the hell are they even trying to go there when they don't know how to read.

    The shoutbox tell everyone that the place is dead.
  • The Definition of the Devil
    Given that the Devil is the exact opposite of God,

    The devil is not the exact opposite, he is a lesser power altogether. He is not a god but a fallen angel.
  • Philosophy Joke of the Day
    I didn't know you could link to a Pandora station. Anyway, I've just started. It isn't that populated yet. — T Clark

    I'm not sure if you can link to it, Pandora is not available here, but I thought that if someone has a link to a stream I might be able to listen in.
  • Philosophy Joke of the Day
    I've just set up a Pandora station from that era. Gary U.S. Bonds, Beachboys, Otis Redding, Buddy Holly, Little Richard, Dion. Such wonderful music.

    OK, fantastic. :D

    I had a collection of about 4500 singles and maybe 1000 LPs of music from between '54 and '65.

    Where is the link? 8-)
  • Philosophy Joke of the Day
    That was a great time for music. It showed the world what not to do.
  • The Last Word
    RIP
    Fats Domino dead at 89.

    Another great one left the world.
  • Philosophy Joke of the Day
    Virtual heckler... congrats, you succeeded hissing on a philosophy forum. :-}TimeLine

    I certainly am not, a heckler that is. But I could be virtually anything if I wanted.
    I had to read the second part twice, I thought you had accused me of wetting the forums walls.
  • Growth
    I want to discuss the process of thoughts.Scalpounet

    Mankind's basic thought process towards growth can be summed up fairly easy.

    Get something bigger to hit it with.
  • The Last Word
    Hmmmm now we need something to celebrate at the end of the day. Maybe Happy End of Everything Going Wrong?Lone Wolf

    Expect

    Restless Tossing and Turning for a Long Long Time.Lone Wolf
  • Philosophy Joke of the Day
    How many lightbulb jokes does it take to screw a comedian?Baden

    About as many as it takes to screw up a joke thread on a philosophy forum.
  • The Last Word
    Good night.
  • Philosophy Joke of the Day
    A man walks into a bar with a parrot on his shoulder.
    The bar man says that there are no pets permitted.
    And where the fuck am I going to tie him to if I leave him outside? Asks the parrot
  • Philosophy Joke of the Day
    How many women does it take to change a light bulb?Michael

    None. That's one of the few things men are useful for.
  • Growth
    In other words, Genghis wasn't afflicted by a sickly inability to use force. Maybe Lenin and Stalin were his students. Lenin once said that there was no place in the regime for that "quaker and papist nonsense about the sanctity of human life".Bitter Crank

    He was worshiped as a hero in his time. The speed of the empire's growth was unheard of in those times and for many years to come. Total destruction of everything that opposed them as they moved, stopping only to collect the riches from the conquered. It must have been scary as shit knowing they were coming.
    If the Khans had continued to rule those that surrendered to them and continued to collect tributes for centuries who do you think would have been a world power today? What language would we be speaking?
    I shudder to think what someone like that would be capable of in today's world.
  • Growth
    Genghis Khan, quoted by an historian:

    Genghis Khan “The greatest joy a man can know is to conquer his enemies and drive them before him. To ride their horses and take away their possessions, to see the faces of those who were dear to them bejeweled with tears, and to clasp their wives and daughters in his arms.”

    For Genghis the meaning of life is conquest, theft, suffering, and rape. Note what does not even make the list: the love of a child or the passion of a woman or the joy of creating or the excitement of achievement.

    Genghis was a predator in practice.

    In his son's, Ogadai, life time was when the bigger part of the empire was acquired. The total time was only about 60 years.
  • Growth
    And the British even better.Banno

    Yeah, but they did not do it all in one man's lifetime.

    Long live the Khan.
  • Growth
    Up until then folk pretty much left each other alone.Banno

    But the Mongols did it better and more of it.

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  • Philosophy Joke of the Day
    How many Irishmen does it take to change a light bulb?
    Five.
    One to hold the bulb.
    Two to pick him up and turn him.
    One to read the instruction manual.
    One to get the Guinness.
  • Growth
    Growth is a relatively new fetish. I blame Alexander.Banno

    Genghis Khan and his killing of millions as he rampaged through Asia and Europe started it all.
  • Growth
    a human is trying to survive, which constitutes his primary objective.Scalpounet

    This is confusing. You state here correctly that humans' primary objective is to survive, then you say that he was doing so by growing. Humans barely managed to survive for thousands of years with little or no growth. As the traveled around searching for food there was no way the could accumulate possessions because there was little to actually possess and there was even less worth carrying around.
    Several developments made it possible for them to survive easier.
    Taming animals and planting(not agriculture) made no difference to their main objective, it was still survival.
    Learning to breed captive animals (domestication) and the beginning of agriculture still only made it easier to survive because the population had started to increase. But this made it necessary for them to spend most of their time in one place.
    Once there was enough food available and they had learned ways to store it life became easier, and then it was possible for the groups to maintain a certain number of craftsmen that specialized in creating things that again made life easier. Now they had things that they could own and a place to own it.