Or wait - maybe silence is the highest form of praise you can get here... — CasKev

That's how the original thread in the old place got started.

My comment was serious. — Banno

So we got from Umpha umpha to fuck then fuck you and on to let's go fucky fucky.

Not a bad days work for early man.

How is need not a form of "longing for absent things"? — Metaphysician Undercover

I can long for the girlfriend I had when I was 18, but I don't need her.
I can long for a peanut butter sandwich, but I don't need one.

I need food.
I need water.

Seems to me there is a bit of a difference.

If there is one, then there is a way to make an other one. — Vajk

There's too bloody many already thank you.

Nuh. It would have been "fuck!" — Banno

Probably in its old form umpha umpha.

Crap, I just realized that I am on 2 threads called The First Words and The Last Word. I will have to do some serious thinking so as not to confuse my posts.

That's an obvious set-up for a joke about beer and spreading, but given all the recent sexism hoopla, I'll let that one slide right by... ;) — CasKev

I thought that I was the only one with a dirty mind. >:)

God(s) is/are omnioptent being(s).

Assume: there are no omnipotent.

1. x is non existent
2. y is non existent
3. If x is non existent then x cannot kill y
4. If x cannot kill y then y cannot be dead
5. If y is non existent then y cannot be killed
6. If y cannot be killed then y cannot be dead
7. y cannot be dead AND y cannot be dead (non contradiction)
So, our assumption that there are TWO omnipotent beings is false. This reasoning can be applied to any number of Gods.

I think this works just fine because 0 is a number and this reasoning can be applied to any number of gods.

Does this prove there are no gods?

The first words were born in this state of longing, fairly desperate, for absent, 'missing' things. — Mark Aman

I would have thought that need would have been a bigger motivator than longing for absent things. It might be that in some cases they overlap, but I doubt that man learned to speak so that he could call the old lady to come home.(Or vise versa so as not to seem sexist)

Imagine you go to work, a long day, angry boss, and lots of unappreciated work that was done by you. Then, you wake up and realize that the day just started and you now have to go to an even worse job, with a worse boss, with much worse pay. I believe you would be pretty "bummed", to say the least — Anonymys

This happens to many people everyday, and they HAVE to call it reality.

Should we have slander guidelines? — Agustino

If you can't take the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen.

But did he know what fruit is was? — Anonymys

It was a breadfruit, would you know one if you saw it?

Could he have known the difference between a circle and a square without somebody telling him? — Anonymys

Even with 2 good eyes you would not know the difference without someone telling you first. That is what they teach you in school.

Even blind people have a sense of dimension and spacial order. I saw a blind man draw a picture of a funny shaped fruit after touching it for a few minutes. The size and shape were fairly accurate in 2D and he could even draw it from several angles without having to touch it again. He had been born blind.

How would you live after the fact: knowing that your whole existence has been a futile attempt at nothing? — Anonymys

If you have enjoyed what you have experienced, then why should it have been a futile attempt at nothing?
Seems to me that if that is what life is then you should enjoy while you can.
Does it really make any difference if everything you think is real is just electrical impulses that come from outside your instead of electrical impulses that are created inside your body? You still perceive it as true.

Is that some sort of sick joke? — Bitter Crank

Don't knock it till you try it. But you have to get the sardines with chili hot sauce.

Maybe you could season the sardines with some of that yeast spread. What's it called? — Bitter Crank

Beer, it's called beer. :-}

Fruits and vegetables maybe? Some cheese? Bread? — Bitter Crank

Yeah we got some of them too, did you think I only drank beer? it was the day before shopping day.
Well at least we still had some the cheese.
Nothing better than supping beer with lumps of cheese to munch. The vegetables go in the stew that is also great to eat with a beer or two. The fruit gets juiced and are always good for mixing drinks. Oh yeah, bread. Toasted bread with sardines is fantastic with beer. :D

Heard that you got rid of your sheriff — ssu

Who shot the sheriff?

Hahaha! Please refer to the thread on getting authentically drunk... >:O — CasKev

I had a couple of quick looks at it, but I figured that I had too much to say about the topic.
I only have hangovers if I drink the local brews, so I just buy cheap imported stuff. Costs about 50 cent US instead of $1 for the local stuff.

And by the way, stop sending your rain over here. It was a nice 90F until you started complaining about the weather. X-)

Do you mean respecting the dead bodies or respecting the memories of the dead?

Who has something to brighten up the day? — CasKev

It's Friday!
Next week is carnival week here.
I have 6 6packs of cheap beer in the fridge. Not much else though.

I'll try to think of something else and get back to you in a bit.

Have you ever heard of Ferguson? — ArguingWAristotleTiff

The one that ran the football team?

The issue here, I believe, is that the above two facts are just your personal beliefs. — Rich

I doubt that he understands the difference.

I guess we can have a poll and see how well your facts are doing? — Rich

Count 1 vote against this theory.

It's not a real insult if it's asked for, so it's all good. — Michael

I guess I could say that about everybody I ever insulted, they all asked for it.

Now I feel better about my life. :D

Readin', mostly. Also talkin' 'bout, and chucking both figuratively and literally at times. — Wosret

Amen brother.

Who is Murphy? — ArguingWAristotleTiff

The Murphy that has laws named after him.
Murphy's Law, the governing rule of the universe.

The good book is the bible. — Wosret

Good for what?

As for myself, I (my mind) am definitely peering out and increasing awareness all the time of that which surrounds me - as it's every other life form. That is how life evolves. — Rich

I am not against that at all, in fact I embrace the ideas. But how does that make the universe self aware?

How can you tell that you open a philosophy forum on the internet?

It is the only place that can go from bad jokes to personal insults in less than 20 posts.
And the insults are not even funny.

Have you had the pleasure of teaching any of Sapientia's children? — CasKev

May the gods and Murphy forbid such a thing. (please read with a thick Scottish accent)

I don't any of the little bleeders every got to school, him being so bloody busy chucking them of cliffs and so on.

This thread seems pretentious. — Thorongil

Wait till the real thread starts, it will be a little more mature. Pre tentious :-*

As per the conditions set in the OP I have. — TheMadFool

based on the reason that the universe is self-aware and able to comprehend itself through us — TheMadFool

Can you prove any of this beyond your belief in them.

Supposedly if a reason for something is removed then it becomes obsolete or non existent.

Humans don't have tails anymore because we no longer need them to live in the trees.
I don't have a drivers license right now because I don't have money to fix my car and don't need it.

So what is the reason you have for life? To make the universe self aware. So what did the universe do before humans came along, and what will it do after we are gone? What happens if the universe is not at all self aware, which I am sure it is not? We lose our reason to live so we won't exist anymore.
Why would something as vast as the universe pick some little fucked race like us in a very tiny little piece of itself to help it be self aware. It would be like the jolly green giant sending an atom of its toenail to to find out what is in its left ear.

If that is the only reason for human life then we are screwed.

And I don't want to be the eyeballs of the universe anyway.

That makes no distinction between an ant, a pig, a dog, and a human. However, we know that ants, pigs, dogs, and humans differ from each other. So, shouldn't meaning of life for a human be different from that of an ant, a pig or a dog or a plant, etc? These real differences between living things not only serve to identify each species but also bear on the way these lifeforms live which includes the meaning of life. — TheMadFool

You still have not proven that there is a purpose or meaning to any life.

Oh, that's not so bad! You made it sound pretty grim in your preceding post. — CasKev

Because the rest of the year is close to slave labor with 400 kids shouting at you.

Civic holidays - they're great! Gotta love Canada! — CasKev

Holidays. That's why I like my job.
6 weeks for Christmas
1 week for Easter
2 weeks mid-year
8 days Civic holidays

If they don't they'd be irrational. — TheMadFool

And most who disagree with you say you are irrational.

But the purpose of life being to live is a tautology. — TheMadFool

So prove it is untrue.

How else can we snap our fingers? — TheMadFool

I don't do it like that, I have both fingers together. Anyway nowadays I only use my middle finger for .............. I'll let you guess about that.

No it's not. I should've been clearer. Think of how we function in our everyday lives. We set goals. If we achieve them we set new goals. It's the same thing with the meaning of life. — TheMadFool

But that is as individuals, not as a race.

If each person can define the meaning of his/her own life then we'll see variety but also controversy. — TheMadFool

As a race we would first have to agree on the meaning of life for it to be changed, and that is not going to happen your way.
If we accept that the meaning to life is to live it, then everyone will always agree and there will never be any reason to change it no matter what happens.

It looks like she's snapping her fingers to get the dog's attention — TheMadFool

With her middle finger?

why does the ''treat'' look like a finger? And she's not looking at the dog — TheMadFool

Who knows, maybe it is!!!

Well, that was a great week! Back to the grind on Tuesday. Out with the old boss, in with the new! — CasKev

Shit did I miss something, like the memo about 3 day weekends! My weekends are only 2 days, if I am lucky. And I usually have work I brought home.

At that moment the meaning of life will change — TheMadFool

That is contradictory to your OP.