I'm just sayin' I'll do that if you're right about the national polls; what'll you do if I'm right that you're completely wrong? — Baden

Sorry 180 Proof. I’ll put money on it. — Mikie

Harris will beat Trump, says election prediction legend Allan Lichtman² :victory: :cool: — 180 Proof

Also, when you say it won’t be Joe Biden as the nominee — care to bet on that too?
— Mikie
Like taking candy from a baby. :yum: — 180 Proof

[Y]our arguments apply (at best) only to your concepts [ ... ] The discussion seems to be about an uncaused first cause, and that's an unbreakable oxymoron. As such you can only have it if you first grant it. But then you [@Hallucinogen] have proved exactly nothing. All this worked out millennia ago. If you're just working it out for yourself, some credit to you. But the argument has long been a dead letter. — tim wood

Atheism is the rejection of theism. — DingoJones

However, if that is ↪180 Proof's definition of Deism ... — Gnomon

And is there a certain type of pro-Israel Jew that you do respect? — BitconnectCarlos

[T]he plain bald fact of the matter is that if you [@Gnomon] do not know what it means, then your education is lacking. And not only just because you don't know what it means, but also because you don't seem to recognize that it's meaningful, or that you can easily look it up. It also means you're unfamiliar with books that commonly have comments in them in Latin, Greek, German and so forth. So while it does not say, "You're an idiot," you yourself have instead said, "I'm an idiot," and apparently proud to be. — tim wood

The only real solution here is equal rights for Palestinians, and for Israel to become a normal, modern state where multiple ethnicities can coexist. — Tzeentch

Instead of learning from his interlocuters here, who aren't exactly dumb, he [@BitconnectCarlos] chooses to drink right wing Israeli cool aid. — Benkei

I could point out that eternal mathematical relationships (e.g., Pythagoras' theorem) don't change as everything else changes ... — Hallucinogen

I don't have a body. — Kurt Keefner

... 'person' is derived from 'persona' which were the masks worn by actors in Greek drama. It corresponds to 'ego', which is, we can say, the self's idea of itself, and refers to what we are consciously aware of as ourselves, who we ourselves think that we are. — Wayfarer

I think "mind" is what the brain and body does ... — BC

Analytic philosophy is a toolkit and not a school of philosophy? — Leontiskos

Also a "necessary being" is a contradiction in terms insofar as for it to be "necessary" means that "being" is unchangeable (i.e. both being and not-being simultaneously). — 180 Proof

The point is that denial of a necessary entity entails a contradiction. — Hallucinogen

↪Eros1982

Cool— so you’re irrelevant. — Mikie

DEAR GOD,

FREE PALESTINE
FREE ISRAEL

FROM THE PARTIES OF GOD. NOW!

Modern society is destroying itself. — Carlo Roosen

Thinking cannot be understood by more thinking.

Yesterday I wrote that I not only have to build this SHAI to save the world, I also have to get philosophy back on track.

I wonder what David Deutsche's (probably unconscious) metaphysical commitments are — Wayfarer

'bad philosophy' (anti-realism) —> bad physics —> bad philosophy (woo-woo) — 180 Proof

consider yourself ignored. — BitconnectCarlos

'Collective punishment' (e.g. domicide¹) and 'disproportionate retaliatory slaughter' of a several decades-long captive population for "October 7th" by (US client-state) Israel are, at least, ongoing war crimes. — 180 Proof

Anti-zionism is effectively anti-semitism. — BitconnectCarlos

(e.g.) R. Luxemburg, S. Freud, A. Einstein, E. Fromm, P. Levi, Marek Edelman, I. Asimov, H. Arendt, I.F. Stone, N. Chomsky, H. Siegman, M. Lerner, R. Falk, T. Judt et al — 180 Proof

To oppose [COLONIZER-SETTLER-APARTHEID ETHNOSTATISM] is to oppose Jewish self-determination which, if realized, would render Jews, once again, completely reliant on foreign nations for security and strip them of their autonomy....

As you noted, he doesn't make rational arguments — Gnomon

A first cause is logically necessary — Philosophim