There is essentially zero afterlife mention[ed] in the Hebrew Bible. — BitconnectCarlos

If you can't figure out what's wrong with #2, you are not thinking or engaging in good faith.
— Lionino

You should state what's wrong with it. — Hallucinogen

(2) If some observation corresponds to some Bible-specific proposition, then it is evidence that Christianity is true. — Hallucinogen

STFU moron. — Moses

Well, there's the rub. How can we ever determine if any Ai has agency? — RogueAI

There will probably eventually be human-level Ai's that demand negative rights at least. Or if they're programmed not to demand rights, the question will then become is programming them to NOT want rights immoral?

We'll have human-level Ai's before too long. Are they conscious? — RogueAI

Do they have rights?

What is human originality, then? — Nemo2124

What is it that we can come up with that cannot ultimately be co-opted by the machine?

Whatever is real does not require faith. — Thus Spoke 180 Proof

But ask a more fundamental question: why do we "care"?
— Constance

I'd say we care because (or if) it is our nature to care. There is not some anterior reason that leads us to think we should care. We are instinctively attached to our lives and want to preserve them, just as animals are. — Janus

Any subject or object can be deconstructed into meaninglessness or incoherence, but so what?

I'm fine with reality (whatever that may be) being a pragmatic or tentative construct that helps us to manage our lives. The problem isn't so much in pointing out putative flaws in our construction of the world. The problem is no one has any useful alternatives. — Tom Storm

the sea transcends its waves — bert1

Existence is "What is". — Philosophim

Fair enough. Don't some expression of phenomenology try to break down the mind/body problem with embodied cognition? — Tom Storm

It's just that we always seem to come back to quesions about what is true and how do we know it.

That's because you are religiously blind, don't you know? :wink: — Janus

Apologists' being anyone who questions naive realism, right? — Wayfarer

1. If "objective moral good" entails objective moral bad
— 180 Proof
i.e. show that the latter (bad) is not entailed by the former (good). — 180 Proof

The landmass may have been called Europe by some guy called Ptolemy, but so what? It is only relevant because we now through our construction of history hold Ptolemy in high regard. — Tobias

It is through conquest that 'Europe' became a thing. Not by being a 'thing in itself' but an entity developed, adorned and embellished by ...

Scholasticism to me is not a candidate for any special status. Islamic and Judaic philosophers were more adapt at it, or at least equal.

1. If "objective moral good" entails objective moral bad — 180 Proof

The human fear of death.
—180 Proof

I wonder, what is fear? — Constance

The landmass was already called Europe since ancient times. — Lionino

... according to the OP, "objective morality" is conditional, not "existence".
—180 Proof

Can you quote the part of the OP you're talking about? — Philosophim

The point I will make below: If there is an objective morality, the most logical fundamental aspect of that morality is that existence is good. — Philosophim

What changed the direction Europe was going? — Athena

No worry on the delay, have a safe trip! — Philosophim

3 is incorrect. If there should be existence, then the absence of existence would be bad.

1. If "objective moral good" entails objective moral bad, and

2. if "objective moral good" assumes "existence is good",

3. then objective bad assumes existence is bad;

4 therefore if "objective morality",

5. then it necessarily assumes existence is both good and bad (i.e. "should be" and should not be) simultaneously – which is a contradiction;

6. therefore either (A) "objective morality" is not possible or (B) "objective morality" does not necessarily assume (5) the contradiction "existence should be";

7. however, objective morality is possible (e.g. disutilitarianism),

8. therefore (B) objective morality does not necessarily assume (5) the contradiction "existence should be". — QED

I am asking what there is in the world that gives religion its fundamental justification. — Constance

Religion (i.e. cult), n. The private and public worship, or propitiation, of spirits (i.e. disembodied agents) primarily by practicing ritual reenactments of myths and legends. Animism (with or without shamanism) might be the oldest form of religion, or superstition.

Many atheists actually don't deny the existence of gods. I am an atheist. I don't make a positive claim like that. — Tom Storm

Fear of death assumes there is something fearful about death. — Constance

Religion rises out of the radical ethical indeterminacy of our existence. — Constance

This fallacy goes around and is very popular (with the like's of @BitconnectCarlos and the type).

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Then again, genocide does work as a way to destroy the enemy... totally. As the Romans themselves said: Ubi solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant (they create a desert and call it peace). Worked wonders for the Mongol Empire for a short time. But is there moral justification for this kind of war? No. — ssu