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In any objective morality existence is inherently good
Explain how.Existence can be an action ... — Philosophim -
In any objective morality existence is inherently good
– for what?existence is good — Philosophim
This statement doesn't make sense (i.e. is a category mistake) because "existence" in not an action or practice and therefore cannot be prescribed."There should be existence" -
What is Philosophy?
If you say so ... sorry I can't follow the rest of your post.A kind of meta-psychotherapy? — ENOAH
Superficially maybe. I'd rather put it this way: philosophy consists in reflective questioning of the assumptions and implications of "what we believe" (i.e. logic-grammar-dialectics preceeds epistēmē).So, in a very general way, it's [philosophy is] about what we believe. — Sam26 -
Which theory of time is the most evidence-based?
We do it all the time – the "visits and changes" are our memories.If the past still exists, why can't we visit it and change it? — Truth Seeker
Also, all the starlight that reaches Earth is years-to-millennia millennia old and would require us to travel faster-than-light (backwards in time according to Einstein's GR) in order to reach those past stars.
Some reasons why a "Block Time Theory" doesn't make as much sense to me as the "Growing Block Universe". -
Which theory of time is the most evidence-based?
This interpretation seems to me both the most evidence-based and consistent with human experience.Growing Block Universe: This theory is similar to the block universe theory but adds the idea that time is "growing" or expanding as new events come into existence. The past and present exist, but the future does not yet exist. — Truth Seeker -
Is atheism illogical?Okay, summarize the relevant part of Durkheim's thesis that accounts for (or explains away) this observation:
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Axiology is the highest good
And what is "the good" to "anyone" – philosopher and non-philosopher alike?... anyone concerned about "the good." — Shawn -
Axiology is the highest good
What does "highest good", as you're using the term, mean or refer to?the highest good. — Shawn -
Are War Crimes Ever Justified?
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/war-crimes.shtml :roll:So far everyone appears to know what a war crime is except me. Anyone care to fill me in? Anyone? — tim wood -
Axiology is the highest good
Your thesis statement is circular at best (e.g. the study of value is 'the highest value' :roll:).The thesis statement of this thread is that axiology (the study of value) is the highest good. — Shawn -
Is "good" something that can only be learned through experience?What you keep saying has nothing to do with what I've written. "Appreciation" is irrelevant to my concerns as expressed here .
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Is "good" something that can only be learned through experience?
No.Isn't the negation of disvalue, the meaning of appreciation - — Shawn
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/902327
Also in terms of ethics and logic.or maybe you meant this in terms of aesthetics?
Axiology is the study of value.For me, axiology is the highest good.
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Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West BankThe systematic atrocity of Netanyahu's mass murdering with impunity goes on because (A) Israel receives too much US-EU finanvial & military support and (B) Israelis aren't bleeding enough (yet) for the citizenry en mass to rise up and stop Bibi's zionfascist regime from slaughtering any more Gazans et al.
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What are your core beliefs?The topic concerns "core beliefs" and not core delusions (e.g. pet conspiracy theories). "Brain worm" troubling you today, BC? :sweat:
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Is life nothing more than suffering?
No. Life seems to be suffering plus *temporarily better or worse conditions / interpretations* ... I think one sustainably reduces one's own suffering – one flourishes¹ – by acquiring habits of preventing or reducing the suffering (i.e. dysfunctions, miseries, agonies, fears) of others. Btw, "happiness" is just like a full belly, more a memory than a lasting experience; many miserable persns make themselves "happy"² momentarily via addictions or criminal / sadistic acts which inevitably only compound their miseries.Is life nothing more than suffering? — Arnie
https://lisamarieblair.medium.com/eudaimonia-or-when-human-beings-flourish-b9c5943bad22 [1]
(i.e. beneficial growth and deveopment)
https://bigthink.com/thinking/how-to-measure-happiness-hedonia-vs-eudaimonia/ [2]
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Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
:lol: :up:Trump's of course, but Trump is his own worst enemy. Trying to shame a porn-star is like trying to spice up a chili pickle. — unenlightened -
Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)9May24
Today in Trumpenfreude
:clap: :rofl: "Orange Turd-1"It doesn’t say ‘President Trump,’ it says ‘orange turd,’ ...
I absolutely meant Mr. Trump. — Stormy Daniels while cross-examined by Trump's defense lawyer Susan Necheles -
Are War Crimes Ever Justified?War crimes are always "justified" by the victors. Your poll is ahistorical, therefore incoherent.
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Is atheism illogical?Point taken. I'll remember not to cast anymore pearls before you, @BitconnectCarlos.
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Is atheism illogical?
Clearly your "faith" has martyred your honesty and intelligence.No need to bring up martyrdom here. — BitconnectCarlos
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Is atheism illogical?Nonsense. Martyrs usually possess an overpowering "sense of purpose" which allows (causes) them to annihilate themselves (and often others too) "in the name of" their tribal / sectarian faiths.
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Is atheism illogical?"Fear" of what? :smirk:
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Does Universal Basic Income make socialism, moot?
:100: :fire:I don't think UBI is intended to prevent a revolt of the masses, it's to keep them minimally contented. It's a nuisance to manage their discontent and unhappiness, not a major threat. Groups that are any sort of real threat to the establishment are not bought off with a basic income. They are confronted and attacked by the police.
In any volatile situation, where revolt could grow out of riot, the police shoot to kill. lumpen proles (like George Floyd) have been treated pretty harshly by the police when they get out of line. It's not an aberration, it's policy. — BC -
Is atheism illogical?
How does faith deter anything let alone suicide?I believe that faith is a deterrent against suicide. — BitconnectCarlos -
What are your core beliefs?:up: :up:
Amen. :smirk:Religious people are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are religious. — paraphrase of J.S. Mill (re: conservatives)
A link below to a thread dicussion ... for religious apologists like @BitconnectCarlos (of several decades of systematic collective punishment via mass murder, ethnic cleansing & apartheid)
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Is "good" something that can only be learned through experience?I don't understand what you mean by "appreciation".
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Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
(i.e.) Millennia of slaughtering babies & other innocents in the "Promised Land" ("Holy Land"). Countless human blood sacrifices demanded by the insatiablely jealous "God of Abraham". :eyes:Humans don't fight over territory and food. They fight over imaginary stories in their minds. — Yuval Noah Harari, Israeli historian
:100: :fire:↪BitconnectCarlos pfff... Zionists don't take them seriously and obviously you don't either. Don't murder (Palestinian civilians). Don't steal (land). And unlimited administrative detention for Palestinians with no recourse to courts. That's 3 [Noahide] laws continously broken that you're perfectly fine with. — Benkei
Well okay, then why not also "eliminate" the ultra-Zionist leadership of Israel and murderous Israeli colonizer-settlers in the Occupied Territories?↪Benkei
We must eliminate those who are intent on the murder of innocents. — BitconnectCarlos
Yeah, that's just what the Waffen SS and its Einsatsgruppen told themselves too ... gfy, BitCunt. :shade:Killing them is not murder. -
'The Greater Good' and my inability to form a morally right opinion on it.
Only if the process is completely painless for both dogs and humans, then yes of course. I think in order to do good, at minimum, the means must sustain and not be inconsistent with (sabotage) the ends. 'The good' in this example, however, might be instrumental (e.g. scientific, technological, juridical-political), but it's not moral (i.e. not eudaimonistic)."Would you let animals like dogs die in order to create a vaccine that will save all of humanity?" — Arnie -
Is atheism illogical?
Ancients called that "gnosis" or "nirvana" ... :victory: :cool:... all I saw was the Void looking back at me. — Vera Mont -
Christianity - an influence for good?Have accusations of deicide (Matthew 27:25) and the blood libel at the heart of Christian antisemitism for over a millennium (from pogroms to inquisitions to the shoah) been "an influence for good"? I cannot forget (e.g.) that Wehrmacht soldiers wore "Gott mit uns" belt buckles or that entrances of many concentration camps bear "Arbeit Macht Frei" (paraphrase of John 8:31-32).
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Is atheism illogical?The profoundly gullible have always deluded themselves with 'cosmic conspiracies' (e.g. Abraham's "Covenant", Christ's "Second Coming", ... Lovecraft's "Cthulhu Mythos") and yet the facts, as you say, are ... the simplest "divine plan" is – the only one that does not beg any questions – there is no divine plan. :fire:
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Is "good" something that can only be learned through experience?
Yes I agree insofar as. I've come to experientially understand (any) "good" as a reflective practice of negating – effectively preventing/reducing – disvalue.Do you agree with this, namely that the notion of good in inherent in the primacy of experience, and not something that can be learned by simply looking up a definition and analyzing it? — Shawn
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