Is it "metaphysics" or just the lazy habit of reifying abstractions?See how metaphysics leads one astray? — Banno
:100:I think it clear we do not know what happens when we die. All the rest is story telling. — Fooloso4
:100:A congenital problem with idealism is that, in denying that things exits outside the mind, it throws out the existence of other minds. Of course over the last few hundred years various arguments and excuses have accreted around Kant's thinking, but it seems difficult to see how we cannot be sure of the chair on which we sit, and yet we can be sure of the folk to whom we talk. — Banno
:roll:... solipsism. Perhaps epistemic ...
Okay, again I askI'm a Substance Monist. — Gnomon
So you are a (non-Cartesian :roll:) substance dualist after all, Gnomon, as you distinguish between "act of creation" and "creation" (or "design" and "designed" ... "immaterial" and "material")... what non-trivially distinguishes "physical events" from "metaphysical interactions"? — 180 Proof
... in effect, invoking Aristotle's (down-to-earth version of Platonic duality) 'teleological hylomorphism'. How latter-day Scholastic (i.e. :sparkle:-of-the-gaps) of you ...Meta-physics is the design (form, purpose); physics is the product (shape, action). The act of creation brings an ideal design into actual existence. The design concept is the “formal” cause of the thing designed. — Gnomon
Of course. Why wouldn't it?Does Immanentism allow for an eternal "Multiverse", or "Big Bounce" scenarios, [ ... ]?
It's the culmination of tautologous premises #1-5.Solipsism.
— 180 Proof
Why? — Bob Ross
"The political object is the goal, war is the means of reaching it, and means can never be considered in isolation from their purpose. War is merely the continuation of politics by other means."Not to have to focus on politics but on an ethical intuition re methods of warfare... — Baden
:100:... you are already making us of language, along with all that entails; so your very line of thinking presupposes far more than it pretends. — Banno
Tautology.1. There is experience, therefore something exists. — Bob Ross
(See my reply to #1.)2. That something, or a part of it, must be producing experience.
How do you/we know this is the case?3. The unified parts of that something which are producing it is the ‘I’.
(See my reply to #3.)4. The ‘I’ can only produce experience through (data) input (i.e., sensibility).
Solipsism.5. The production of experience via sensibility (and whatever may afterwards interpret such sensibility) entails that one’s experience is a representation.
Clarification: so you are a substance dualist?Consciousness is partly shaped by physical events, but partly determined by metaphysical (mental) interactions. — Gnomon
Yep, that's his usually m.o.You [@Wayfarer] are simply reading your preconceptions into the quotes you posted. — wonderer1
:up:I also find myself wondering, if accurate. so what? Does it make any difference to how one lives? How is this way of thinking of use? — Tom Storm
Again: philosophical statements.What do you mean by a conceptual supposition or interpretation? — Bob Ross
There's indeed no moral equivalency. Hamas' violence is a drop in the ocean of Israeli aggression. — Benkei
Of course not. The oppressor (group B) is more morally reprehensible than the oppressed (group A).Is the pilot and the group of armed men morally equivalent? — BitconnectCarlos
:up: :up:My reason for not believing in any form of personal rebirth or afterlife is not that there is any definitive evidence against it, but simply that I cannot make rational sense of the idea, and I cannot believe something I am incapable of even making coherent to myself. So, I can honestly say that my thoughts on this are not at all driven by wishful thinking. — Janus
Our descendants' lab-grown steaks sausages & chicken tenders will be too convenient and taste too good to fret about obsolete barbaric practices.Why will no one care or remember? — Judaka
No. IMO, none will not care – even remember – once industrial meat has been completely replaced by lab-grown meat.Do you agree with my prediction? — Judaka
Such as – ? The prospective rewards seem to me more than worth the un/foreseeable risks.Yeah, I can appreciate such possibilities, but I can imagine a lot of dangers humanity is woefully unprepared to understand. — wonderer1
Proof you've not read (or understood) Spinoza's Ethics, esp. section I "Of God". qed.Everything in nature, every natural phenomenon, is transitory and subject to decay. — Wayfarer
:100: :fire:Things, beings, entities are not eternal, but nature itself is. Spinoza drew a distinction between natura naturata and natura naturans. The former is created nature, transient nature and the latter is the eternal active creative power which brings about created nature. — Janus
And this means what? Not 'seeking union with a transcendent being/reality' (because Spinoza, in effect, argues that 'transcendence' is incoherent, illusory or superstitious).Spinoza was a mystic. — Wayfarer
Spinoza says philosophy seeks understanding and that our freedom expands as our understanding deepens.[W]hy bother with philosophy? — Wayfarer
Probably because the very young Spinoza wouldn't keep to himself his critical view that the Torah fundamentally consists of 'superstitious myths' (which years later he expounds on in the masterful Tractatus Theologico-Politicus).For what reason was Spinoza exiled from the Jewish community?
Those who wish to share their understandings – wrestle with nontrivial conceptual & existential aporia – with other reflective thinkers read and write philosophical texts.Why undertake the laborious task of composing such complex and lengthy philosophical works, and why read them?
Unlike many philosophers, the "man in the street" simply isn't explicitly aware that he, like "the wisest", often doesn't know that he doesn't know or what he/we cannot know.Why is not any man in the street equal to the wisest?
:up: :up:If you [Wayfarer] want to understand Spinoza you need to actually read him. — Janus
:100:Future generations will see that trying to establish a Jewish state was a bad idea which just stained their religion with blood. — frank
With respect to (subpersonal) "life" in general, except conatus (i.e. "to persist in being" ~Spinoza), there is not any "purpose". As for "human life" in particular, neither to survive (i.e. "evolution") nor to thrive (i.e. "history") are "inherent" as far as I can tell.is there any inherent purpose in life, including the evolution of human life and history? — Jack Cummins
