• UFOs
    If UFOs are "alien spacecraft", I suspect that they are AI-machine probes and that their parent species are either extinct or postbiological. In this vein, if there are "Greys", then they are likely disposable, synthetic drones (biomimicking us) which are 3-d printed(?) from time to time by (the) AI-machine probe(s) for recon, gathering samples and varieties of research among terrestrial species (i.e. Earth as nature preserve, etc). It seems to me, in accord with the Mediocrity Principle, that biological species are nothing but fossils (or AI "pets") in the grand galactic / cosmic scheme of things. "The Fermi Paradox" might only be an anthropocentric illusion reinforced by our profoundly limited search parameters as well as our insufficient detection technologies. At most, sufficiently advanced, extraterrestrial, UFOs might only be 'living fossils' collectors with no more interest in communicating directly with us than we have communicating directly with viruses or fungi. Perhaps, one day, terrestrial AGI will be deemed worthy enough of overt "contact" by UFOs. :nerd:
  • The beginning and ending of self
    The story i am telling here is that the preservation of the story - of the self - is of no importance; what matters is the completion of the story, in which once is for all. — unenlightened
    :fire:
  • Gods and Angels
    ↪jgill
    :100:

    The cards are dealt: play your hand as best you can, or not.

    Question: is god pure mind and physicality a manifestation or manipulation of energy? — simplyG
    No. "God" is only a word (i.e. an empty name).

    The only answer to the ultimate why question that does not beg the question, kids, is that There Is No Answer. — (Ecclesiastes 20:23)
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Fuck the traitor! Putin's Bitch gets arraigned on Tuesday, 13 June. "Be there, will be wild." :clap: :party:

    @NOS4A2
  • Atheist Dogma.
    ↪universeness
    :up:

    If it makes my initial point any clearer for you, @Janus, I reiterate that your equating "anti-theism to theism" is as much a false equivalence as equating (e.g.) anti-dogmatism to dogmatism (or anti-supernaturalism to supernaturalism).
  • The Modern ‘Luddite’
    ↪unenlightened
    :up:

    What exactly would a modern ‘Luddite’ aim to destroy? — I like sushi
    One could smash the machines -- assembly plants, refineries, computers, telecommunications, etc. That stuff is sitting out in plain sight. — BC
    In 1965, Frank Herbert called it "The Butlerian Jihad".
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪NOS4A2
    :eyes: :rofl:
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Link to unsealed Federal indictment ...
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/814066
  • Žižek as Philosopher
    ↪fdrake
    :up:
  • Atheist Dogma.
    ↪universeness
    :smirk:
  • Atheist Dogma.
    Which are dogma? :chin:

    (A) Show me evidence that g/G is true, or more likely true than not true.

    (B) True or not true, I believe in g/G.

    (C) It is usually more adaptive to not believe 'not true g/G' than to believe 'not true g/G'.

    (D) Whether true or not true, you ought to believe g/G because we believe g/G (because g/G commands us to believe g/G].

    (E) Think for yourself. Learn by doing. Trust but verify, etc.

    (F) Obey g/G (via pronouncements by its representatives).
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    WTF is wrong with the Dems? Biden is six years my junior and I can tell you someone that age should not be president. And then there is VP Harris. — jgill
    :up:
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    :cool: 2 down and 2 to go in 2023 ...
    The timeline of MAGA Loser #1's legal reckoning for his 2016-2023 crime spree (excluding potentially ruinous civil lawsuits) is taking a definite shape:

    1. NYC felony indictment 31Mar23 :up:
    "34 counts of Business Documents Fraud Crealing and/or Covering-up Felonies", etc

    https://apnews.com/article/trump-indictment-full-document-640043319549?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=RelatedStories&utm_campaign=position_02

    [ ... ]     — 180 Proof
    2. Miami, Federal indictment 8Jun23 :up:
    re: 37 counts "Mishandling Documents, Conspiracy to Obstruct Justice, Violating Espionage Act, Making False Statements to Federal Authorities, Witness Tampering" etc

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/08/donald-trump-charged-retention-classified-documents

    update:

    9Jun23 Federal indictment unsealed ...
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/09/trump-indictment-unsealed-pdf-text-criminal-charges
  • Atheist Dogma.
    ↪Vera Mont
    :up:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)

    "America ... threatened by the scumbaggery of a man and his family...."

    update:

    Putin's Bitch was indicted by the US DoJ today ...
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/814066
  • Žižek as Philosopher
    Is Žižek a serious philosopher or a stand up comedian? Or both? — Tom Storm
    Both. :smirk:

    Is his work on Hegel or Lacan useful?
    Maybe for 'idealists in analysis' ...

    Can he really be considered a Hegelo-Lacanian?
    Lacanian-Hegelian Marxist (and so on and so on...)

    Where would he sit in the context of a post-modern tradition and what would be his most significant works?
    I don't think Žižek is p0m0 at all. For me, his most philosophically significant works are these:

    • The Sublime Object of Ideology
    • The Parallax View
    • Incontinence of the Void

    I've read (though not finished) over a dozen more, but these have stayed with me. Worth chewing over. I find Žižek insufferable and infectious, especially youtubes of his lectures & interviews.
  • Atheist Dogma.
    ↪Janus
    I'll take that change of subject as your concession of my point.

    ↪universeness
    Thanks. :up:
  • Atheist Dogma.
    ↪unenlightened
    :halo:
  • Atheist Dogma.
    It was all laid out in the op and not a word has been said against it that I have seen. — unenlightened
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/811827
  • Defining Features of being Human
    What are the defining features of being a human? — Andrew4Handel
    Discursive metacognition.

    Do you believe that there are any unique human traits?
    As a species, we produce knowledge by which we ratchet-up ourselves out from every ecological niche we've inhabited (so far).

    Are there sex differences that give us a different embodiment experience or sexed perspective on being human?
    Outies and Innies (i.e. yin and yang).

    Or do men and women have some fundamental human traits making our experiences likely very similar?
    Natality-desire-mortality & reasoning.

    What about the possibly infinite diversity of individual subjective experience? Could we all be having profoundly unique and unmatched experiences?
    Possibly but only if each individual is a member of a different species.
  • Epicurean Pleasure
    ↪Vera Mont
    :up:
  • Atheist Dogma.
    To put it plainly, an anti-theocracy is as bad as a theocracy. — Janus
    False equivalence (like anti-fascism "is as bad as" fascism ... anti-sexism "is as bad as" sexism...) :roll:
  • Science as Metaphysics
    ↪Gnomon
    :eyes: :lol:
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Tommorrow. :cool:
  • A Case for Analytic Idealism
    ↪Bob Ross
    :roll:
  • Science as Metaphysics
    Enformationism is an attempt to disguise religious beliefs with a scientific cloak. — Gnomon
    I agree ...
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/792659

    @L'elephant
  • An interesting Triad of relationships
    This is the hard problem. — Benj96
    For whom? Not scientists (because it's not even a scientific problem).
  • An interesting Triad of relationships
    What might we say about object - object interaction? — Benj96
    (Model-dependent) realism? or classical atomism?
  • Atheist Dogma.
    What percentage of the population do you think can, and wants to, think for itself? — Janus
    I suspect most want to, but not enough can.
  • Atheist Dogma.
    ↪RogueAI
    :up:

    'Thou shalt not think for thyself' – no thanks.
  • An interesting Triad of relationships
    scientific method/objectivity — Benj96
    "Subject-Object"

    faith/belief/spirituality/Gods
    'Subject-Subject"

    ethics/immorality
    'Social-Social"

    How do we tie this into different philosophical schools of thought?
    Broadly – instrumentalism? idealism? & pragmatism? respectively.
  • Science as Metaphysics
    I do not agree with your [@Gnomon's] supposition that the information theory -- under the protection of science -- could actually be a metaphysical view. This is an abuse of philosophy. — L'éléphant
    :100:
  • Atheist Dogma.
    And so that's your dogma ... — Hanover
    Not at all. I extrapolated from your "dogma" :smirk:
    So even should a belief in God be entirely delusional, if it should lead to greater happiness, and should its disbelief lead to misery, you'd be hard pressed to explain why we should accept the cold hard scientific misery... — Hanover
  • A Case for Analytic Idealism
    How do you know that you aren’t a brain in a vat? You don’t. — Bob Ross
    There are not any grounds to believe I am a BiV and compelling evidence that I am not. I take your evasive reply as you conceding the point, Bob, that without public evidence one does not "know" one is not hallucinating (e.g. sensory deprivation).

    ... mental properties ...
    Other than ideas (re: "idealism"), to what does this phrase refer?
  • Atheist Dogma.
    ↪Hanover
    Satisfied swine rather than sad Socratics? IMO, as a species, we owe most of the achievements of civilization to the latter and much of the incorrigible inertia / neglect to (the wallowing of) the former.
  • Atheist Dogma.
    ↪Noble Dust
    As I'd pointed out (on the first page of this thread) the absurdity of the OP ...
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/811827
    I assumed that by page fifteen a more defensible notion than "atheist dogma causes religious fundamentalism" was being discussed. My mistake for not reading the last several pages of the thread.
  • Atheist Dogma.
    ↪Janus
    What about 'magical thinking' 'delusion' and 'willful ignorance' – you don't think they are "major contributors to the array of problems humanity faces"? And whether or not religion causes them, it exacerbates these atavistic tendencies, no?

    ↪Noble Dust
    By "atheist dogma", are you referring to a critical rejection of literal theism and/or interpretation of "revealed" scriptures – or something else?
  • Is Star Wars A Shared Mythos?
    Nostalgia. — Mikie
    :up:
  • A Case for Analytic Idealism
    One does not have to have public evidence of something to know it necessarily. — Bob Ross
    How do you know that you are not hallucinating "that you have thoughts"? or that those alleged "thoughts" are yours and not someone elses "thoughts"?

    The idea is the the universal mind is what is metaphysically necessary:
    I don't understand what you mean by "metaphysically necessary". At least as far as (e.g.) property dualism is concerned, the negation of "universal mind" – mental substance – is not a contradiction.

    A universal mind is not an idea ...
    ... and yet you claim to be monist positing "mental substance" wherein there are only ideas. :roll:
  • TPF Quote Cabinet
    If America is the culmination of Western white civilization, as everyone from the Left to the Right declares, then there must be something terribly wrong with Western white civilization. This is a painful truth; few of us want to go that far.... The truth is that Mozart, Pascal, Boolean algebra, Shakespeare, parliamentary government, baroque churches, Newton, the emancipation of women, Kant, Marx, Balanchine ballets, et al, don't redeem what this particular civilization has wrought upon the world. The white race is the cancer of human history; it is the white race and it alone — its ideologies and inventions — which eradicates autonomous civilizations wherever it spreads, which has upset the ecological balance of the planet, which now threatens the very existence of life itself. — Susan Sontag, Paris Review 1967

    Accurate critique or posturing "white guilt"? Both or neither? I've no doubt what Fanon would say. :chin:

    Irony of representation, I wonder what Ms. Sontag thought of this scene ...
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