That's a tough one. Initially I'd say that science aims at mind-independent knowledge, not dependent on our opinions or tastes. At the same time, science is dependent on human beings, who discovered it. So an element of subjectivity remains.
But I didn’t mean to offend. God Bless in your pursuit and I hope you find what you are looking for. — TheQuestion
Generally speaking, good tends towards life and being. Evil tends towards nothingness. Augustine defines evil as an absence of good/being. The loss of God and being, brought about by the fall, leads to evil and nothingness. — EnPassant
A realistic scenario
"That's impossible! It cannot be Smith who did this."
"Then who did it?"
"It has to be Brown!" — TheMadFool
I can show you a link that can explains it better than I can.
I call it the Bible Project is very informative and I think is up your ally. — TheQuestion
The snake in the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was a fallen angel that manipulated Adam and Eve. — TheQuestion
And validated by [link] https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/israelites-ask-for-a-king_bible/ [/link]46 But some of them went their ways to the Pharisees, and told them what things Jesus had done. 47 Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles. 48 If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation.
-- John 11:46-48
We can have many choices in specific situations, some are better than the others, however no matter how many choices we have all of them can be grouped as either good or bad. — SpaceDweller
I believe there is nothing wrong with attempting to interpret the bible as an art rather than trough faith. — SpaceDweller
"Good" and "evil" are mostly just arbitrary terms we give to different things according the metrics our morality/systems of belief tell us to assign to them. But beyond our preexisting systems of belief there is no clear way to explain why something is good or evil.
Take for example the cells in our body. When they are behaving in the way we want them to they are generally considered "good" but when they do not (like when they are cancer cells) they considered "bad" or "evil". However such cells don't really choose whether they either help or hinder the body since they are not really conscience of what they are doing nor are they aware of how their behavior either helps or hurts their host nor if their actions really benefits them or not. this is more or less true of all any and all animals who are not sentient and can not really be "moral agents".
In essence anything that isn't human or sentient (or even human but not really sentient) falls into a category or problem called "natural evil".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_evil#:~:text=Natural%20evil%20is%20evil%20for,of%20the%20laws%20of%20nature.
However the existence of natural evil begs the question, if man is influenced by most of the same problems and limitations of as other animals, cells, forces of nature, etc. how can we are considered "objective moral agents" when pretty much everything in nature is not. Is it or is it not considered wise to expect human beings in many ways as fallible (or perhaps sometimes more fallible) then the cells in our body which can be expected to go "bad" from time to time?
— dclements
Wow.... Truly am grateful for your time and response, as I am everyone in this feed, really. Thank you all for thinking this out with me. There is some underlying thing driving the need to understand and have an answer to, what it is I see here.
dclements
.... You take me to the very point I have been trying to build to with all this weaving around. I needed the basis laid in order to makebetter sense of what it is I see, without being discarded as absolutely nuts, lol.
Behind the evil and the good, is some metadata of some sort, that presents us with a version of our Belief/s. From here, we add colour.
Data comes in, we give it colour, and "it" fills in the Forme, that our Belief gives it.... This is my hypothesis, after deciphering many things written in stone, written for Posterity. These things, along with the alchemists of old, as Fulcanelli clearly states, were not looking for gold in the form of the metal we all know and love.
I see, after all these years, the Path to the island Hesperides, and much more than even this. Four and Three and Two and One.... Two Waters, made One....
Perspective alone assures us of the experience of belief. Knowledge and belief are two different things. Knowledge is based on forms, the letter of the spirit behind the form. But belief is the invisible that takes form, depending upon the ingredients provided by said belief.
The belief of the existence of evil, at all, is what allows for the infinite manifestations of evil that we experience daily.
— PseudoB — PseudoB
The lack of explanation for why brains are conscious but hearts aren't is a problem. — RogueAI
Some will say that Life feeds on Life, which then circulates, giving rise to our Spherical theories of everything. — PseudoB
The lack of explanation for why brains are conscious but hearts aren't is a problem.
— RogueAI
Not only that, but only some brain activity is correlated with consciousness. So if there's something special neurons are doing, it's not all of them. That's a problem for mind-brain identify. What makes some neural activity conscious? It needs to be something more than an identity, or you end up an unexplained ontology where only certain, very specific things are conscious, for no reason at all. — Marchesk
"Good" and "evil" are mostly just arbitrary terms we give to different things according the metrics our morality/systems of belief tell us to assign to them. But beyond our preexisting systems of belief there is no clear way to explain why something is good or evil.
Take for example the cells in our body. When they are behaving in the way we want them to they are generally considered "good" but when they do not (like when they are cancer cells) they considered "bad" or "evil". However such cells don't really choose whether they either help or hinder the body since they are not really conscience of what they are doing nor are they aware of how their behavior either helps or hurts their host nor if their actions really benefits them or not. this is more or less true of all any and all animals who are not sentient and can not really be "moral agents".
In essence anything that isn't human or sentient (or even human but not really sentient) falls into a category or problem called "natural evil".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_evil#:~:text=Natural%20evil%20is%20evil%20for,of%20the%20laws%20of%20nature.
However the existence of natural evil begs the question, if man is influenced by most of the same problems and limitations of as other animals, cells, forces of nature, etc. how can we are considered "objective moral agents" when pretty much everything in nature is not. Is it or is it not considered wise to expect human beings in many ways as fallible (or perhaps sometimes more fallible) then the cells in our body which can be expected to go "bad" from time to time? — dclements
.... You take me to the very point I have been trying to build to with all this weaving around. I needed the basis laid in order to makebetter sense of what it is I see, without being discarded as absolutely nuts, lol.dclements
Perspective alone assures us of the experience of belief. Knowledge and belief are two different things. Knowledge is based on forms, the letter of the spirit behind the form. But belief is the invisible that takes form, depending upon the ingredients provided by said belief.
The belief of the existence of evil, at all, is what allows for the infinite manifestations of evil that we experience daily. — PseudoB
Looks like everybody recognizes evil! Should be easy, then, for someone to say what it is. You-all do know what you're talking about, don't you? What is evil? — tim wood
It's said that belief taken up a notch - conviction - is a very powerful state of mind in that it can, in a sense, open doors.... — TheMadFool
Let's allow Hitler and Tojo to have some air time; let's hear what they have to say. After all, they have a huge following and all those people can't be wrong, can they? Maybe they have a point? — James Riley
"The American people don’t believe anything until they see it on television” is a quotation by American politician Richard Nixon (1913-1994) — https://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/the_american_people_dont_believe/#:~:text=%22The%20American%20people%20don%E2%80%99t%20believe%20anything%20until%20they,solid%20for%20months%20after%20the%201972%20Watergate%20break-in.
There is always room in academia to entertain argument, both sides, and objectivity. That is what academia does best. But don't shovel it out, uncontested, as propaganda. You may not get anyone fired up next time around when it's time to kill. — James Riley
I don't believe in evil, but I understand the utility of a social construct called evil. Does the fact we construct something that does not exist render it extant? — James Riley