How do you relate that to the declining labour share of GDP development and income inequality?Or the fact CEO pay has risen by 940% since 1978 but worker pay only by 12%? This while GDP grew with nearly 90% since then? — Benkei

Some economists believe that a relatively low growth rate is normal for a rich nation, because there’s less of an incentive to work, people have fewer children, and so on, and that a declining GDP will increase inequality to destabilizing levels if unmitigated by policies that include wealth redistribution. AI development could further sink the divide. Is that an expression? Anyway, some kind of redistribution policy seems inevitable.

The idea of religion in my mind is closer to the Durkheimian view that religion centers around the idea of sacredness, which literally means "something set apart for a particular purpose." — h060tu

I’m not sure how you get that sacredness “literally” means that. That, of course, is not what it means, much less literally means. I assume that’s one sense of it that you got from a dictionary.

The Durkheimian Wikipedia page defines sacred as:

the ideas that cannot be properly explained, inspire awe and are considered worthy of spiritual respect or devotion

The secular institutions that you mention don’t hinge on ideas that cannot be properly explained.

Somethings are upheld by a cult as "sacred" (set apart) that are not under the same perview and general skepticism of other beliefs.

Religious social facts are necessary not open to review because they are by nature inexplicable.

If an authority figure repeats something enough times people will begin to believe it. It’s like a Jedi mind trick, only it doesn’t require any talent or skill.

I cannot be responsible for the readers comprehension if there is no honest effort to understand the spirit of my post. — ArguingWAristotleTiff

You're also not responsible for the reader's comprehension of the content of your posts.

Rather than banging your head, you could try to explain how the content of your post relates to what I posted. Assigning the attribute of "hysteria" rather than "derangement syndrome" to others may be a lesser attack, but it remains an ad hom attack.

Are you condoning the use of ad hominem attacks in this forum?

Both TDS and TD accomplish the same task... what you wrote doesn't appear to address anything I've posted.

I think that most Trump supporters only require the barest of excuses to dismiss embarrassing facts. Trump's recent public musing about injecting disinfectants, for instance, is easily accepted as being "sarcasm" by his followers.

This makes me wonder if the basic mission of people like NOS and nobeer is to help provide that suspension of disbelief to any Trumpies that may read negative content about their hero on this forum.

Clearly NOS is on a mission of some sort.

Sorry, you'll have to refresh my memory, what is the argument that I don't like?

I’m probably one of the few who read many of your posts. If I read more of them, I imagine that my spineless work would be far more labor intensive.

Maybe someone who joins a philosophy forum to write thousands of posts in support of their political hero within a few months. Some of us have criticized Trump, but none of his critics here come even remotely close to that level of religious fervour.
— Badin

Could have fooled me. — NOS4A2

Rather, you’re not fooling anyone.

Different phrase and different meaning. — NOS4A2

That accomplish the same task. I could, for example, say that you have a weak character or say that you’re immoral. Both could be used as an ad hom attract in an effort to influence the weak minded (such as a trump supporter) to dismiss basically anything you say.

different phrase — NOS4A2

Should I do a search for “anti-trump hysteria”?
— praxis

I’m not sure why you would. TDS stands for Trump Derangement Syndrome. — NOS4A2

It's possible that some of the restrictions society places of the classification are acting in a similar way - constraining private variety to make public expression meaningful? — Isaac

Like all social constructs, agreement or uniformity is important to function, and the price of being out of sync with the socially constructed emotional world is an imbalanced body budget (stress).

Should I do a search for “anti-trump hysteria”?

I was pointing out how you’re misrepresenting your past behavior, and the purpose behind the behavior, and not that you’re necessarily “wrong” about anything.

What does my prolific gossiping via pm about you have anything to do with this?

I prefer anti-Trumpism — NOS4A2

If I’m remembering right, you often use the phrase “anti-Trump hysteria,” which is no less of a logical fallacy, designed to invalidate any criticism of Trump in the weak minded Trump supporter, than using the term TDS is.

I wouldn't go around hugging people because I'm not sure whether or not I'm a carrier. It's not only about my safety.

In the interest of a little comic relief...

Fauci mentioned something about Brad Pitt playing him in a movie or something awhile ago.

This guy’s with ya.

My friend recently was mocking someone behind their back. Of course we are told that this is wrong and some of our morales state that this is wrong. If the mocked person never finds out and it doesn’t affect the treatment that they receive is it actually an issue? — TheDarkElf

If done mindfully it may be positive in allowing the gossiper to vent some pent-up feelings. Generally, a bad idea though, as it promotes increased prejudice.

In all honesty, if you don’t know the right amount to claim “money earned” or how long money lasts then you couldn’t have been taught in the right circle.

You lied about being in the right circle, obviously.

Let me put it this way, those who are taught in the right circles have a pretty good idea of how long money lasts, whereas you appear to be clueless, yet you claimed to have been taught in the right circle.

My own business has dried up so much that I’m living on my savings. I’m not sure how long that can last. — NOS4A2

You lied by accusing me of lying, whether by malice or stupidity, but then you keep perpetuating it. — NOS4A2

Nothing is stopping you from explaining, for instance, how in three months you went from being financially independent to being near broke. It could be as simple as typing out a few letters, like “Vegas”.

He's fairly dispassionate about it as if it's a job. He doesn't seem to mind being picked on. — frank

It could be that he simply enjoys the attention, in which case we might now be serving him up a feast.

It's a made-up-meme, the purpose of which is to discredit criticism of Trump. — Baden

Or invalidate any criticism.

I don’t know what response you could possibly expect from me, given the see through attempt to manufacture something to mock about me in your posts. — DingoJones

I just thought a little transparent mockery would nicely complement the pearls you’re clutching.

Ah, of course, where are my manners! :scream: Do be a gentleman and please forgive my inexcusable intrusion.

Rather its the kind of thing we hope people will hold themselves accountable for. — DingoJones

I'm quite upset about you pointing out my weak character. Do you by chance hold yourself accountable for that, kind sir?

It’s an aspect of anti-trumpism. Anyone or anything that looks favorably on the president is subject to hostility and persecution and censorship. It’s a sort of fanaticism. They actually think I’m a Russian bot, not because I’ve spoken Russian or anything, but because it’s what they’ve been taught to believe. — NOS4A2

Just recently you've been caught in blatant lies. Why would anyone bother to lie on this forum unless they were either a fanatic or being paid?

Anything you post can only be trusted if it's verifiable, at this point.

I hope she was/is successful. She has a sweet disposition, in my experience.

In Ojai at the time I did work for an ayurvedic healer, some kind of Lymph node masseuse, an art gallery, and I built a website for a guy that literally sold electrified water by the plastic jug. Pretty standard fare for Ojai, really. :lol:

Clay's Ark, Octavia Butler — 180 Proof

This looks good. I read one of her series and liked it a lot.

it involves subconscious prediction
— praxis

To be honest, I find it hard to fathom how a mind could possibly work without these. — javra

One way might be like the computers we are now using, though of course they aren't minds and may never develop into being minds.

To stray from the topic a bit, The Thousand Brains Theory of Intelligence developed by Jeff Hawkins (Numenta) applies the principles (hierarchical auto-associative memory and prediction algorithms) of real intelligence to AI. Imagine training machines instead of trying to program them.

Yeah, sounds good.

It was Dianne Steal, back when she was trying to market wine cozies. Not the most lucrative client I ever had, which is why it was so brief.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of Trump's cult members tried out his brilliant idea.

I don't want to be a freelancer. — Pfhorrest

I'm in the same field as you are, and even breifly did some freelance work for one of the employers listed on your resume. I got a referal thing going in the Ojai valley some years ago. Anyway, just wanted to say that freelance isn't so bad.

There'a a realy good book called How to Change Your Mind that is very thourough on the subject. Also, the author relates the story of several trips on different forms of psychedelics, which is interesting.

I'd like to try a trip or two myself, without getting arrested.

We actually aren't apes.
— ZzzoneiroCosm

The Hominidae (/hɒˈmɪnɪdiː/), whose members are known as great apes[note 1] or hominids (/ˈhɒmɪnɪdz/), are a taxonomic family of primates that includes eight extant species in four genera: Pongo, the Bornean, Sumatran and Tapanuli orangutan; Gorilla, the eastern and western gorilla; Pan, the common chimpanzee and the bonobo; and Homo, of which only modern humans remain.[1]
Wiki. — Banno

We’re sapiens, a species infinity more lethal to itself and other species than, uh, any other species.

Trump's supporters are unreflective boors.
— Banno

I'd buy that. Trump doesn't show up well in an intellectual domain, so we easily trash him here on this forum.

What we may overlook is the impotence of intellectuals through the ages. They're mere servants to the powerful apes who do the real creation and destruction that drives human life.

An intellectual is no more than a helpful dog whose whining means nothing. — frank

Cute, but the fact of Obama invalidates your poetry when analyzed intellectually.

I should have been clearer in trying to point out that in using just imagination to become angry or envious the corresponding bodily stimuli are produced in the body. I imaging that curiosity, for example, corresponds to a bodily state of higher arousal. Whether that means a slightly higher heart rate or whatever I don't know, but there is an altered interoception.
— praxis

No denying that. This is a good example of what I'd frame as top-down effects upon bodily states emerging from cognitive states. — javra

Not sure what you may be implying by mentioning bodily states emerging from cognitive states. Imagined envy is basically a simulation that can produce the same emotional response as an exteroceptive experience, going back to that example. The theory doesn't hold that an emotion like envy is gained via interoception alone. I don't recall the specifics, I learned about the theory a couple of years ago, but it involves subconscious prediction, an aspect that you may not be fully appreciating at this point.