:grin: Hilarious! Ah, have to love the 2020's...The National Union of Students says there is "no evidence" of a freedom of speech crisis on campus. — counterpunch
I am not seeing a question... — Book273
freedom of speech is allowed within the accepted views of the current political narrative. — Book273
How can any university worth the name - presumably for fear of offence, restrict freedom of speech, and so restrict freedom of conscience, opinion, academic enquiry, and scientific investigation? — counterpunch
Current political narrative in the universities doesn't go hand by hand by those in political power.Short version: freedom of speech is allowed within the accepted views of the current political narrative. So students are free to speak as along as they support the mainstream views. However free that is. — Book273
I don’t trust that a “free speech champion” should compel people to advocate for free speech under fear of fine and sanction. That seems to me the opposite of free speech. — NOS4A2
everything anyone wants to say seems to get said, even if certain forums close their doors to certain opinions. I'm not dismissing the significance of those instances when a university suppresses certain forms of speech, but let's not pretend that that suppression has the actual effect of keeping people from speaking. — Hanover
The unstated reality of it is that one may voice and pursue any opinion, as long as no one gets offended. — Book273
Apparently the right to never be offended is of far more value than freedom of speech, or of inquiry. I was, too say the least, very disappointed in the reality of higher education here. It was astoundingly rigid and conformist, not what I had expected at all. Live and learn eh. — Book273
she was demonised and twitter mobbed. Had it been anyone but an independently wealthy author, she might have been drummed out of her job - because the employer doesn't want the negative publicity. This same kind of politically correct terrorism is going on in academia. — counterpunch
I don’t trust that a “free speech champion” should compel people to advocate for free speech under fear of fine and sanction. — NOS4A2
Isn't all that 'speech'? Wouldn't preventing it require some kind of restriction on free-speech? — Isaac
Yes. It's called "being civilized".How Kafkaesque! Always on trial for a crime you might commit by saying something someone else might find offensive. — counterpunch
Yes. It's called "being civilized". — baker
It's not possible to do so anyway, so the whole idea is a non-starter. Deplatforming would be possible if there would exist neutral communication avenues, a no-man's land where everyone would equally belong and not belong. But there is no such place.You don't get to delegitimise, shout down, drown out and de-platform other people — counterpunch
No. There's no free speech defence for closing down others. You don't get to delegitimise, shout down, drown out and de-platform other people - and claim that doing so is only exercising your right to free speech. If you appeal to free speech you have to respect that right for others. — counterpunch
Really, you live in a society where people don't have to walk on eggshells all the time??! — baker
Every newspaper, every tv and radio station, every website, every youtube channel, every physical space fit for any kind of communication is owned by someone, and that person or organization gets to call the shots on what can be said there and what can't. — baker
So there are limits to free speech. On what grounds? — Isaac
Free speech does not entitle one to an audience; nor even to a platform. — Banno
...then we agree with unenlightened that Universities ought not be obligated to provide a platform to fools. — Banno
It's about legitimate views de-platformed for political ends. — counterpunch
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