What are the benefits and the problems with patriarchy and with matriarchy? — Athena
It's hard to say what the negatives of a matriarchy would be that are specific to matriarchies, and not just any hierarchical society. — darthbarracuda
Ruthless competitions like war and capitalism are sometimes seen to have their origins in patriarchy, with the implication being that a non-patriarchal (though not necessarily matriarchal) society would not have these things. — darthbarracuda
Can society exist without hierarchy? — Noble Dust
It is just as concievable that patriarchy has it's origin in the particularly pretechnological competitive milieu of prehistory as the other way around. For primitive sapiens and his hominid forerunners, physical/bodily strength was generally the primary determinant for survival. In such an environment, patriarchy seems nearly inevitable. — Michael Zwingli
So... why do we not have examples of matriarchies to work with?
What's that about, then? — Banno
But we already know that, generally speaking, prehistoric groups of H&Gs were much more egalitarian than any of the agricultural states. Slavery and war came with civilization. — darthbarracuda
:fire: And temple whoreship too.Slavery and war came with civilization. — darthbarracuda
but certainly uncontestedly patriarchal nonetheless. — Michael Zwingli
Ideally I prefer ... An-archy, or a decentralizing extension of matri-archy. — 180 Proof
I am on that train, as well, though not a member of "the party".(left libertarian) — 180 Proof
The only reason left as I can tell is the physical nature of men, who are generally stronger and so better equipped to bash a woman's skull if she questioned his authority. — darthbarracuda
The problem is the -archy part of both. — StreetlightX
So... why do we not have examples of matriarchies to work with? — Banno
The problem is the -archy part of both.
— StreetlightX
I would consider the thread closed after this response. — dimosthenis9
We cannot escape it or write off it's power and attraction for us so easily. — Michael Zwingli
patriarchy and with matriarchy — Athena
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