Keeping a past record seems little more than archiving. If we want to know what's moral according to divine rule we'd be statistically better off consulting the current crop of religious cults than the written record of the previous c — Isaac
All my favorite philosophers are dead. Their accounts of the source of morality are more satisfying to me than those put forth by living writers. I would think Wayfarer could make a similar argument. — Joshs
If I kill a murderer right before he manages to kill my wife....I did harm a person but can we say I did an immoral act. No, because an act that is in favor of the well being of our society and its members is moral by definition. — Nickolasgaspar
If anyone is interested, there are other versions on the web which might be accessible there in Timbuktu. — T Clark
How would you demonstrate, for instance, that rape is wrong based on moral realism? — Tom Storm
But someone else might say, using the exact same metrics, " Ah, you just wait another 20 years, you'll find that society as a whole has benefitted from allowing/encouraging action X more than enough to make up for the temporary harm it did" — Isaac
I believe morality applies to existence itself, not just human beings. Our own human morality comes from this. — Philosophim
And back to Kant. He gave his categorical imperative three formulations. I think this one is particularly relevant to this discussion - "Act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law." — T Clark
Rocks are neither good nor bad. Morality is about what we should do around others. Hence, your view is wrong. — Banno
I think the question is, is there any true good? Is there anything which is unconditionally good, not a matter of either social convention or individual conviction? I don't know if that automatically entails absolutism - the requirement is simply for some good that is not simply a matter of individual or social judgement. And that seems a very hard thing to discern sans a religious doctrine. — Wayfarer
Morality is the abstract concept that describes specific behavior capable to promote the well being of Society and its individual members — Nickolasgaspar
yes, ethics is far too complicated to have an algorithmic solution. Hence, the only viable response is to seek to make good decisions; to make oneself a better person.So the above examples prove that absolute moral declarations are factually wrong statements and Situational ethics is the best way we have to make objective moral evaluations for every act. — Nickolasgaspar
All the religious approach does is move the decision form "what ought I do now?" to "which creed should I follow?". The fact of moral choice remains yours. — Banno
Its a Pragmatic Necessity, no a fallacy. There is a huge difference there.The naturalistic fallacy again. — Banno
I don't know what sovereignty has to do with the moral evaluation of behavior between human beings.There are moral systems that say the opposite; that what is right is the sovereignty of the individual, even at the expense of the greater good of society. — Banno
-Ok I c you get which process enables the need of moral evaluations. So what exactly is you objection?Rocks are neither good nor bad. Morality is about what we should do around others. Hence, your view is wrong. — Banno
Morality has to do with us evaluating our interactions and how our actions promote specific metrics that favor the well being in a society. — Nickolasgaspar
Morality has to do with us evaluating our interactions and how our actions promote specific metrics that favor the well being in a society. — Nickolasgaspar
BY DEFINITION morality refers to the evaluation of acts that affect members in a society! — Nickolasgaspar
So an unconditional good is something you would find, something you would come across out in the world. — Banno
Would you class secular humanism as foundational? — Tom Storm
But I think, for instance, the kind of unconditional commitment to charity that is found in charitable organisations indicates a belief in such principles. — Wayfarer
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