My current (perhaps unenlightened) view is that morality is the societal aggregate of subjective values, and hence is societally relative. I think this might also be called cultural relativism by some philosophers. — PhilosophyRunner
Don't think of wright and wrong. Think of how harmful it is. If one's moral view creates harm than good, then it is immoral. On a lesser intensity, it is offensive.On a given subject, is one particular moral view objectively right and the others are wrong, regardless of what people believe? — PhilosophyRunner
I have spent some time recently thinking about whether morality can be absolute. On a given subject, is one particular moral view objectively right and the others are wrong, regardless of what people believe? — PhilosophyRunner
Don't think of wright and wrong. Think of how harmful it is. If one's moral view creates harm than good, then it is immoral. On a lesser intensity, it is offensive. — L'éléphant
It does because there are fundamental reality for all humans. One, humans would not want their families massacred. That's reality. So, we can all agree that it's immoral to annihilate one's family members. There's self-preservation -- that's built-in in us. That's also true about animals, btw. They do protect their offspring from predators and attacks. I mean, I could go on. We just need to be honest about reality.This doesn't really help. One person's harm is another's good. — hypericin
Sorry, but this is a blatant disregard for humans' fundamental reality. I just said. There are fundamental things that we hold dear to us. Disgust with rape is not taught. The body knows without being told. So, yes, rape is immoral.If rape is wrong because we have agreed it is wrong, it is good when we change our mind. — Hanover
Rape is wrong and we agree it is wrong.
Drop the "because".
Now, is rape wrong? Do you agree? If so, we can get on with other things. If not, then... well, there are all sorts of possibilities. — Banno
Sorry, but this is a blatant disregard for humans' fundamental reality. I just said. There are fundamental things that we hold dear to us. Disgust with rape is not taught. The body knows without being told. So, yes, rape is immoral. — L'éléphant
So we don't disagree. I thought you meant it's just a social convention.Don't miss my point here: I agree the rapist is wrong, but I deny its wrongness is simply social convention or a genetically dominant trait. I suggest it's more than that — Hanover
Really? So, what is moral absolutism? That might be a good place to start. — Banno
Well, who else will you trust? Who better? — Banno
Moral absolutism is the position that there are universal ethical standards that apply to actions regardless of context. — 3 APR 2018
moral statements are not mere preferences, because of preferences taken only apply only to apply to me, where as a moral statement is taken to apply to everybody. — Banno
goes on to explain how moral absolutism is a bit silly, and tell the funny story about Kant thinking it wrong to lie to save someone from being murdered. — Banno
You ought not steal period. If you must add a conditional, it would be simply to reassert it's meaning: "You ought not steal if you are to be a moral person." — Hanover
My current (perhaps @unenlightened) view is that morality is the societal aggregate of subjective values, and hence is societally relative. — PhilosophyRunner
morality is actually a result of existential interaction. — Philosophim
As I see it, morality at its most basic is a reflection of human nature. — T Clark
↪Tom Storm First of all the OP clarifies that refers to objective moral judgments not Absolute morality. (I quote " On a given subject, is one particular moral view objectively right and the others are wrong, regardless of what people believe? ") — Nickolasgaspar
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