Stop reading the philosophical shit that pulls you in this direction. — jgill
Why is it always better to cease to exist.
No. Acute depression (due to XYZ) or unbearable, interminable pain or both will lead some to commit suicide. The switch does not flip itself. Pessimism, however, is simply a rationalization (à la hypochondria) for coping with ineluctable frustrations (i.e., facticity).
Or is suicide just a permanent solution to a temporary problem? If yes, how so?
Is depression or pain really what leads to suicide? Does the switch really not flip itself? — rossii
I'm unaware of any "real reason to live" other than that which one gives oneself by taking caring of – investing time in –anything or anyone other than just oneself.I don’t know why my mind keeps thinking there’s no real reason to live — rossii
IME, as a fellow negative utilitarian, I've found that anticipating & preventing or reducing just one other person's suffering (or nonperson's pain) daily helps to reduce (or "ease") my own suffering daily. Once it's habitual, rossii, disutilitarianism feels like and becomes a win-win practice (i.e. virtue).Maybe it stems from my ethics? - which I found out could be considered negative utilitarianism. It also means I don’t want to cause suffering to others, but I can't seem to ease my own suffering.
Besides, killing oneself is a gamble, not a guarantee (or even ascertainable likelihood) that not existing will be better than existing, or that death will end your suffering or despair or interminable boredom. Thus, IMO, it's an irrational act because one (non-pathologically) commits suicide out of blind hope. — 180 Proof
I don't want to be too universal, but I'd say my own suicidal ideations -- at least from my perspective -- are the most irrational part of my thinking patterns. — Moliere
Besides, killing oneself is a gamble, not a guarantee (or even ascertainable likelihood) that not existing will be better than existing, or that death will end your suffering or despair or interminable boredom. — 180 Proof
are the most irrational part of my thinking patterns. — Moliere
That's probably because you don't want to die. — Vera Mont
I don't want to die either. I just need a rational or any reason (maybe even irrational) to live that would really work for me. — rossii
We have no way of knowing what it feels like not to be alive – especially, whether 'not existing' is better than existing. It's as simple as that. Besides, suppose each of us only comes into existence in order to escape, as a brief respite, from (e.g. timeless torments of)...to the suicidal the grass is always greener on the other side of the abyss...
:100:We don't need to prove anything to anyone and we are always good enough. I also think that being happy or finding joy is perfectly compatible with meaninglessness. Joy isn't dependent upon inherent significance, it can come to anyone for any reason. I think our experience of this has less to do with what we believe about life and more about our disposition, personality and brain chemistry. — Tom Storm
Sorry to interject, but are you still getting psychological help?
You mentioned it earlier in the thread, and judging by what I am reading you are in need of professional guidance. — Tzeentch
I'd steer clear of a forum like this if you are sensitive to certain philosophies. Philosophy is maybe a part of the answer, but probably not in the stage you seem to be in right now. I'd sooner view some of the people here an actual hazard to your health. — Tzeentch
my life is a complete failure. It’s full of wrong decisions, (in)actions, regrets, mistakes after mistakes, that I honestly think maybe it’s already too late to “fix everything” (eg: I’m losing all the good chances/opportunities, as I’m getting old now). It’s really ironic & tragic, because a lot of people always say that I’m very talented especially in music (I used to be quite an active musician & composer/songwriter, but sadly I’m still not famous & successful), smart, a deep thinker, a highly sensitive person, etc etc. — niki wonoto
I used to be quite an active musician & composer/songwriter, but sadly I’m still not famous & successful — niki wonoto
Not saying, I am breathing, not counting breaths or focusing on the breathing. These too are the story. — ENOAH
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