I suppose when I say that you can’t have one without the other, I mean that physicality is needed to give a venue for the mental, while the mental is needed to give meaning to the physical. — Noah Te Stroete
I’d say that about covers it. And all from the absolutely strictest human perspective. — Mww
I would have to interrogate a physicalist to know for sure. — Noah Te Stroete
Just because we cannot even conceive the fallibility of math isn’t warrant for suppositions concerning other things that are merely possible. — Mww
LOL and we’ve arrived back to Terrapin Station. — Noah Te Stroete
As if you can even speak of something extra-mental — Noah Te Stroete
You’ve convinced me. Now work on Terrapin Station. — Noah Te Stroete
I don’t understand. — Noah Te Stroete
Based on what you've been arguing, Terrapin cannot speak of himself extra-mentally. — Marchesk
Are you being sarcastic? I’m not always quick on the uptake. — Noah Te Stroete
What you call a “burger” is your perception of the matter consisting of what you ate. What it is like without a mind perceiving it cannot be conceived. — Noah Te Stroete
The burger, when not being perceived, is like a burger, only one that is not being perceived. — S
What you call a “burger” is your perception of the matter consisting of what you ate. What it is like without a mind perceiving it cannot be conceived.
— Noah Te Stroete
The burger, when not being perceived, is like a burger, only one that is not being perceived.
Then you ask me a silly question like, "But what does it look like?", and I reproach you for asking a silly question like that.
That's usually how this goes, anyway. — S
The burger, when not being perceived, is like a burger, only one that is not being perceived.
— S
Then it is being conceived. That also requires a mind. — Noah Te Stroete
What I should have said was that a burger is always perceived or thought about when spoken of. — Noah Te Stroete
What it is like without a mind perceiving it or thinking about it (a mental picture for instance or the memory of its taste) is nonsensical. — Noah Te Stroete
Matter is always either thought about or perceived when people speak about it. — Noah Te Stroete
In this sense, it is impossible to speak of something extra-mental. — Noah Te Stroete
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