I think I can speak of things extra-mental, even though my experience of them is mental. I think that's confusing the experience itself with the thing being experienced, or what the experience is about. Just like the word "rock" is different from specifying a rock that one kicks. — Marchesk
“The thing being experienced” presupposes a mind experiencing it. — Noah Te Stroete
That “thing” isn’t what’s being spoken of. — Noah Te Stroete
You’re presupposing other minds observing your death. — Noah Te Stroete
You would stop experiencing of course. There is “something” that caused your death, viz. matter. But that’s all we can say about it. “Highway”, “cars”, “traffic” are all mental representations of perception. — Noah Te Stroete
but our ability to experience color does give us information about those things. — Marchesk
That information is also a conceptual framework which requires minds. — Noah Te Stroete
You can’t have one without the other. — Noah Te Stroete
...ok. So what is the importance of that distinction when generally speaking? — DingoJones
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