It refutes your claim that life evolved out of dead matter. — Metaphysician Undercover
Life didn't "come alive". That implies that there was a time when life was not alive, prior to coming alive, and that's contradictory. — Metaphysician Undercover
No? Did life not evolve out of dead matter? — ovdtogt
the fact that some people think that the universe went from no life to life simply indicates how little they know about the universe. — Metaphysician Undercover
Life evolved out of chemical reactions. — Possibility
Yes through 'natural selection' which you described as a nemesis. — ovdtogt
What do you think that ‘natural selection’ is? — Possibility
What do you think that ‘natural selection’ is?
— Possibility
trial and error. — ovdtogt
'It' stays 'fit' long enough to replicate.how does ‘natural selection’ know of this result? — Possibility
↪ovdtogtI meant how does it know what result is desired before the process of trial and error begins? — Possibility
It doesn't. If you get it wrong you die. — ovdtogt
It’s more like a limiting factor on a particular process. — Possibility
I was following the Scientific route. — ovdtogt
To say that life came from dead matter is not scientific at all, — Metaphysician Undercover
It is the scientific belief. — Metaphysician Undercover
I think you're confusing "scientific" with "scientism". — Metaphysician Undercover
That's false, there's nothing scientific about it at all. If it were scientific you could show me the process. — Metaphysician Undercover
Right, it's speculation, not science. — Metaphysician Undercover
Great point. However, notice that relativeness as applies here isn't the concept itself which is universal but to objects being compared to each other. A house may be heavier than a car and a car may be heavier than a person, relatively speaking, but that doesn't invalidate the concept of weight does it? — TheMadFool
Do you think science can advance without speculation? — ovdtogt
Right, it's speculation, not science. — Metaphysician Undercover
No I don't think science can advance without speculation, — Metaphysician Undercover
Do you understand that? — Metaphysician Undercover
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