The reality is that there are couples who married who "get tired" of having sex; much as there are notable men and women historically, who in practice may have never married, and actually found other endeavors, such as life, career or intellectual pursuits more satisfying (Newton and Adam Smith immediately come to mind). — IvoryBlackBishop
And what's your point, and how would the number of birth rates have anything to do with it? Whether or not the USA's population number stayed the same, or dropped by 1/2, it would be a different "society" regardless. — IvoryBlackBishop
So hypothetically, if China lost 1 person per year, and assuming that the rate continued fixed at this with never fluctuating.
Then, China's population should be nonexisting in about... err... 2,000,000,000 years from now... lmao... — IvoryBlackBishop
How long will it actually take, in theory, for the population of China, India, Europe, etc to disappear, assuming that it "stays" at whatever birth rate your referencing ad infinitum, and doesn't fluctuate at all, which I believe is very unlikely to happen in practice, as opposed to abstract theory. — IvoryBlackBishop
And? How does that fit into the entire spectrum of spending, in theory and In practice?But problems begin way before that, with a decreasing young population having to support an increasing old population. Pension and medical systems get stretched to the breaking point. This is a very real life pressing concern in i,e, Italy and Japan. You seem to be blissfully unaware of that
How low "is" the birthrate actually, and likely to fluctuate.
You're talking about fantasy scenarios which simply aren't. — IvoryBlackBishop
Still dodging the point as ever, I see?As I said, demography is destiny.
And... how long would that take for the population to "disappear", assuming that it stays fixed at this rate and never fluctuates? — IvoryBlackBishop
Either give me an estimate on how long, or please stop wasting time.It is a math question. It does not very long, and obviously society is drastically impacted long before the whole population actually "disappears". You can play around with an online population calculator like this, if you want: http://ilkkah.com/population-calculator/ — Nobeernolife
Not infinitum; very rapidly indeed, seeing that human life span is about 80 years. And yes, this has been happening before, and is happening now. Use the calculator site that I referenced to see how the math works out.Either give me an estimate on how long, or please stop wasting time. Plus this is assuming that it continues that way ad infinitum, when in reality that hasn't been the case historically. — IvoryBlackBishop
What the heck are you talking about? For better or worse, we live in nation states, and the national birthrate determines what happens to them. And yes, of course, there are differences between communities; i.e. the orthodox Jews in Israel with their massive birth rates produce the children that the secular Jews do not produce, In the same way that muslim immigrants produce the children in Europe that the native Europeans do not produce, which will turn Europe into an islamic continent within the century.Much as how "nationwide" or "global" population is just one of many ways of measuring things, and obviously doesn't take into account population within the context of smaller communities, and so on and so forth. — IvoryBlackBishop
Which will turn Europe into an islamic continent within the century
Prove this please. What you're saying is fallacious, and it's just one of potentially many ways of measuring or framing demographics and trends. — IvoryBlackBishop
I do not know what your argument is here, and neither do you apparently. India was British colony, yes, but what does that have to do with birth rates? A more relevant example would be how e.g. the population of Kosovo turned from Greek Orthodox to muslim. Hint: Not by mass conversion.If your equating birth rates with turning into an "Islamic" or any other continent, this is fallacious, for example, India used to be a "British" territory, despite people of Indian descent being the "majority" demographic. — IvoryBlackBishop
What is the question you're seeking an answer to? How would you put it, exactly?I haven't found anything akin to an "one-size fits all" view, howevr here are some of the aggregate views and "wisdom of the crowd" on the subject. — IvoryBlackBishop
Promiscuous sexual exploration is something like a rite of passage, or at any rate a valuable life experience, for many people in a wide range of cultural contexts. That doesn't mean that it's necessary or preferable for all people in all times and places.At the same time, "hooking up" is something of an adolescent rite of passage for young men and women (ideally with the notion that they will eventually 'mature' into a serious, adult relationship), and the other extreme, such as advocating strict virginity or abstinence until marriage would come across as 19th century Victorian puritanism. — IvoryBlackBishop
There's no reason to assume that people who "hook up" are just "using each other". Sometimes people hook up and treat each other like tools for sexual gratification and ego-inflation. Other times people hook up and treat each other with genuine affection and care. It seems to me the attitude, emotion, and intention you bring to the exchange is what counts in this regard.Likewise, other conflicting views on the topic exist - for example, if one were to pursue "hooking up" as a lifestyle choice, many would object to this, claiming that it is "using" each other, or often more specifically a woman. — IvoryBlackBishop
Your point fails, and defining the "nation" on the basis of ethnic traits, based solely on one of potentially infinite ways of "framing" or measuring the population demographics on the bases of to begin with is fallacious.I do not know what your argument is here, and neither do you apparently. India was British colony, yes, but what does that have to do with birth rates? A more relevant example would be how e.g. the population of Kosovo turned from Greek Orthodox to muslim. Hint: Not by mass conversion.
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