the best candidate for a job might not be the white, male, able-bodied guy who looks like all the others and we should try to cast as wide a net as possible.
Thousands of companies have implemented such policies successfully. — Mijin
Is the only critique of woke to come from the unwoke? — Fire Ologist
Is the only critique of anti-woke to come from the woke? — praxis
I agree, race or sex has nothing to do with the best candidate for a job — Fire Ologist
I also agree, until the 1980’s, and for some still today, many people just refused to see the fact that women and all races can be just as good at many jobs as anyone else, and to just be happy for this fact. I agree much progress has been made towards this good, equitable goal since the 1980s.
Racism is irrational. Sexism is ignorant — Fire Ologist
Selecting people by merit instead of tradition/conformity seems like the right thing to do.
Is that anti-conservative? — jorndoe
So you didn’t even try to define it. You should ask yourself why you don’t think a definition of your position is necessary. — Fire Ologist
Is there anything illogical or incoherent or contradictory going on as this progress is being made, because if there is, don’t you think things may come crashing down as the inconsistencies rot any progress from within?
Is the only critique of woke to come from the unwoke? — Fire Ologist
it's "anti-woke" that is impinging on people's and institutional freedoms — Mijin
manufactured and exaggerated grieveances — Mijin
So you won’t say what is woke, but the anti-woke is a clear threat. — Fire Ologist
Institutional freedoms? Like the wonderful judicial system that, used to be hated for incarcerating too many victims of racism, but is now under threat from the president? — Fire Ologist
Institutional freedoms like the rule of law, which would include border immigration reform? — Fire Ologist
The reason woke thinkers won’t define “woke” is because it would reveal its incoherence and contradictions. — Fire Ologist
One man and one woman, married, as mother and father, typically provide the basis of a good family, and typically the best situation to raise a child.
Why should anyone cringe at hearing the above? Because it’s not woke. — Fire Ologist
and you can't even define it. — Mijin
“Woke” refers to being aware of social injustice, but also the hidden causes of such injustice; and it means to search deeper into how injustice has been systemically built into our institutions (like the police and justice system, capitalism, patriarchy, conservatism, Christianity). Being awake or enlightened, but to the ways our traditions have let us down. — Fire Ologist
My position IOW is that it's bullshit. — Mijin
you've got this backwards. It is a boogieman of mostly manufactured and exaggerated grievances. — Mijin
What do you think? [of my definition of woke] Where am I off on the wrong foot? What needs to be added? — Fire Ologist
You can’t clarify exactly how the anti-woke are living in fantasy grievance land a bit more? — Fire Ologist
What if he’s rich too? A capitalist white prep school nepo baby with some German/Italian/Irish in his veins. No reason not to pick on such a person, right? I can use them as a stand in for any theft, lie, rape, conspiracy, murder, war, and I am within bounds of respectable argumentation. All white men are the same on some level, because they are all white men. Right? — Fire Ologist
How about if I said this about some other race? Do you think I could make any point talking about some non-white person without inviting utter condemnation and disgust? — Fire Ologist
the issue before DEI wasn’t that all of these incompetent nepotism babies were running everything — Fire Ologist
seems like a false dichotomy — Fire Ologist
You need to define “conservatism” [...] — Fire Ologist
Woke is 100 years old in Europe (white men like Marx inspired it). — Fire Ologist
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