 Colo Millz
Colo Millz         
          Count Timothy von Icarus
Count Timothy von Icarus         
         Hans-Georg Gadamer would say that these two viewpoints are two distinct "horizons", by which I understand him to mean that they are contexts of meaning or "traditions", that frame and delimit what we can perceive or interpret. We can never "get outside of" these horizons, we are always already situated within them, unable to get at some Kantian "thing-in-itself". — Colo Millz
 Ciceronianus
Ciceronianus         
          Colo Millz
Colo Millz         
         Do you think this interpretation should be considered as being universal or absolute, or is it itself subject to continuous fusions, potentially becoming unrecognizable in the process?
In Hegelian terms, we might ask if it is absolute, or merely one of the moments of the absolute's coming into being? Or in classical terms would it be merely one form of participation in the infinite Logos, or a universal aspect of intelligibility itself? — Count Timothy von Icarus
 Colo Millz
Colo Millz         
          Colo Millz
Colo Millz         
          Ciceronianus
Ciceronianus         
          Banno
Banno         
          Joshs
Joshs         
         In Gadamer's dialogical reasoning Caputo purifies theology from triumphalism and anthropocentrism, but Genesis rescues Caputo’s view from nihilism by affirming that our animality is beloved and called. Humanity is both animal and imago Dei: the creature through whom matter becomes self-aware, responsible, and capable of love. Evolution tells the story of our becoming; Genesis names the meaning of that story. Caputo shows what we are; Genesis shows what we are for. — Colo Millz
we should be wary of reducing the human to "mere" animality. The human is animal, but also the being who understands, who plays, and who participates in meaning — Colo Millz
 Banno
Banno         
          Colo Millz
Colo Millz         
         A faithful Christian cannot engage in hermeneutical reasoning. — Banno
This is taking Gadamer in a theological direction he was careful to avoid. — Joshs
 Banno
Banno         
          Colo Millz
Colo Millz         
          Banno
Banno         
         From within Caputo’s horizon we learn humility: the human is revealed to be creaturely and continuous with nature. From within the horizon of the Genesis story we learn dignity: the human becomes the bearer of meaning and responsibility. — Colo Millz
 Colo Millz
Colo Millz         
          Ciceronianus
Ciceronianus         
          Colo Millz
Colo Millz         
          Banno
Banno         
          Banno
Banno         
         2. Humanity is constituted according to a paradigmatic form - a likeness or image that grounds its dignity and capacity for relation to that transcendent source. — Colo Millz
 Wayfarer
Wayfarer         
         In Gadamer's dialogical reasoning Caputo purifies theology from triumphalism and anthropocentrism, but Genesis rescues Caputo’s view from nihilism by affirming that our animality is beloved and called. Humanity is both animal and imago Dei: the creature through whom matter becomes self-aware, responsible, and capable of love. Evolution tells the story of our becoming; Genesis names the meaning of that story. Caputo shows what we are; Genesis shows what we are for. — Colo Millz
In traditional theology and metaphysics, the natural was largely conceived as the evil, and the spiritual or supernatural as the good. In popular Darwinism, the good is the well-adapted, and the value of that to which the organism adapts itself is unquestioned or is measured only in terms of further adaptation. However, being well adapted to one’s surroundings is tantamount to being capable of coping successfully with them, of mastering the forces that beset one. Thus the theoretical denial of the spirit’s antagonism to nature–even as implied in the doctrine of interrelation between the various forms of organic life, including man–frequently amounts in practice to subscribing to the principle of man’s continuous and thoroughgoing domination of nature. Regarding reason as a natural organ does not divest it of the trend to domination or invest it with greater potentialities for reconciliation. On the contrary, the abdication of the spirit in popular Darwinism entails the rejection of any elements of the mind that transcend the function of adaptation and consequently are not instruments of self-preservation. Reason disavows its own primacy and professes to be a mere servant of natural selection. On the surface, this new empirical reason seems more humble toward nature than the reason of the metaphysical tradition. Actually, however, it is arrogant, practical mind riding roughshod over the ‘useless spiritual,’ and dismissing any view of nature in which the latter is taken to be more than a stimulus to human activity. The effects of this view are not confined to modern philosophy. — Max Horkheimer, The Eclipse of Reason
 Ciceronianus
Ciceronianus         
          Colo Millz
Colo Millz         
          Joshs
Joshs         
         A quick Google search reveals that several authors have applied Gadamer's hermeneutics to theology, making your statements seem extraordinary — Colo Millz
 Joshs
Joshs         
         …three persons-in-one deity, which includes God's Son, who is nonetheless begotten not made, one in being with the Father, born of a virgin, both God and man, who was cruelly killed for our salvation, descended into Hell, then resurrected, etc. — Ciceronianus
 Wayfarer
Wayfarer         
          Colo Millz
Colo Millz         
         :up:I would have thought it an idea that traditional conservatism (not the warped maga version) could get behind — Wayfarer
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