Science prioritizes evidence, but not proof (excluding mathematics) — BlueBanana
Explain how scientism underlines and how belief takes the possessive. As best I can decipher, you believe science ought be relied upon and not faith. Your view might be different but your writing is poor. — Hanover
False. Belief does not prioritize proof. — BlueBanana
A claim is not a valid response to its own counter. The only thing it implies is that you either didn't read or understand my reply.
Similar words are synonyms. The two words are not similar. Therrefore the two words are not synonyms. — BlueBanana
The OP, along with many many responses of mine here, underline that belief does not prioritize evidence. — ProgrammingGodJordan
We are all aware of the things you have said, the claims you have made.
The point is that you are wrong
The flaws in your reasoning have been demonstrated many times by many people. Your refusal to acknowledge them is irrelevant. — JustSomeGuy
I have seen, read and acknowledged your URLs, and I refuse to recognize the authority of them. And even if I didn't, the words might be similar in colloquial use, which wouldn't have any weight in this topic. And even if it did, it would only mean they'd be similar, not the same. — BlueBanana
You were using the terms to mean the exact same thing. I demonstrated multiple times that they do not mean the exact same thing. Now, it seems you have changed your argument, claiming that you only ever said they were "synonyms" (which is not what you did, you demonstrated their meanings through use) and that synonyms can just be words that are similar or the same, and you are apparently using the former definition of the term. — JustSomeGuy
Can you present where I supposedly presented 'proof' and 'synonym' to be exactly the same? — ProgrammingGodJordan
You just avoided the whole "and even if I didn't" thing. Even if the words were synonyms, they would have drastically different meanings for this discussion.
But fine, let's forget the synonym topic and all that mess, and see the question from another angle. Do you admit the difference between the concepts of evidence and proof? — BlueBanana
Dear lord...I feel like I'm talking to a malfunctioning A.I. — JustSomeGuy
Really? That's ok, just answer it and I'll draw the conclusion afterwards to make it easier for you. — BlueBanana
Whether or not anybody believes science is to be relied upon, is irrelevant; for science is demonstrably thus far mankind's best tool, regardless of what anybody believes. — ProgrammingGodJordan
Define "knowledge." How can you know what you say is true without believing it? — Hanover
But-
1. All men are ignorant of something even in their fields of expertise.
2. There is no science that has exhausted knowledge of its subject.
3. Therefore there is no science that can be more than belief. It is simply a matter of degree. Firm belief vs. weak belief. — Daniel Smith
14 pages of discussion and no one has defined belief or knowledge. How can anyone even continue this discussion in any meaningful way when neither has been clearly defined? The reason why it has continued without any clear argument being made is because neither term has been clearly defined. As usual, philosophical discussions fail to get at anything useful because the terms haven't been defined in any useful way. — Harry Hindu
14 pages of discussion and no one has defined belief or knowledge. How can anyone even continue this discussion in any meaningful way when neither has been clearly defined? The reason why it has continued without any clear argument being made is because neither term has been clearly defined. As usual, philosophical discussions fail to get at anything useful because the terms haven't been defined in any useful way. — Harry Hindu
Dear lord...I feel like I'm talking to a malfunctioning A.I. — JustSomeGuy
Simply, science prioritizes evidence, while belief (by definition and research) is a model that does not prioritize evidence. — ProgrammingGodJordan
Unless belief is redefined to prioritize evidence, or unless some new research suddenly shows that belief generally permits evidence prioritization, the concept of belief, which is both defined, and researched to generally permit ignorance of evidence, ought to be avoided altogether. — ProgrammingGodJordan
Why contact a model that doesn't prioritize evidence (i.e. belief) instead of a model (i.e. science) that prioritizes evidence? — ProgrammingGodJordan
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