Musing a bit, that is part of the problem I have with apokrisis's epistemic "cut"; the cut could not be a private thing. — Banno
What would sharing it with yourself look like? — Banno
The time wasting is apparently mutual. IF it is all a matter of degree, then there can be no absolutely private language...
I think we agree, but you do not realise it. Odd. — Banno
As I said about wine-tasters, this becomes true even of talk about ineffable qualia. — apokrisis
So if I have a beetle in my box, I can talk about it to myself. I can construct the view which says there is this "me" and there is this "other". — apokrisis
You do not have to be here. — Banno
But you enjoy this. — Banno
It might be private, but how can it be a language, especially if the private aspect is what is not, or what is unable to be, communicated (per your depiction above)? — Luke
I would avoid such talk. Too close to reification; too much. — Banno
The cut is another relative thing, never absolute. And it creates the "private" realm from which either communities or individuals would construct meaning in terms of a sign relation. — apokrisis
The subject is epistemology. So our goal ought to be to limit the object of inquiry to that which is relevant to the subject. If we were discussing metaphysics or ontology here, we would be looking to broaden the object, as you suggest, to consider what all thinking has in common, and consider what all activity has in common, but since this is epistemology, we want to limit our field of observation, to focus directly on what we call "knowing". — Metaphysician Undercover
Of course. I love the immense variety of life. And without the irritation, it is easy to get lazy. — apokrisis
If it is impossible for me to communicate to you, exactly, and precisely what I mean, how is that not an indication of private language? In other words, if the public part is always missing something from ideal completion, and perfection in translation, then isn't this the part which is private? — Metaphysician Undercover
Interpretation is moving from one language to another, yes? — Banno
How does interpretation work when we are both speaking English? — Banno
Get a life. — apokrisis
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