So, doesn't a dualist proposition like "the human being consists of body and soul" set up the game? — Metaphysician Undercover
Yes. So let's go with a block universe — Banno
I rather like the block universe. — Banno
Yeah, good point. The Bishop example I have been using is not from On Certainty, but from Searle in The construction of social reality. It's the distinction between constitutive and regulative rules.
So, doesn't a dualist proposition like "the human being consists of body and soul" set up the game? — Metaphysician Undercover
No, because it is not a constitutive rule. — Banno
I don't believe there is a separation between body & soul they are not parts of a whole. I agree with social construction of these notions, but on an epistemic level but not as ontically given. — Cavacava
No, because it is not a constitutive rule. — Banno
Now, the point I made earlier in the thread. If the truth or falsity of hinge-propositions lies outside the game of epistemology, as a constitutive rule of that game, (their "truth" is dependent only on acceptance and institutionalization), then they are actually the most dubious. — Metaphysician Undercover
Why can't Dualism be a constitutive rule for some game or other? — PossibleAaran
The basic insight of OC remains valuable: doubt only makes sense agains a background of certainty. — Banno
Truth is not a type of belief. — Banno
First, it seems that there are beliefs that arise apart from language — Sam26
For if there are no beliefs and no thoughts prior to the formation of linguistics (language), what would be the springboard of language? How does one get from a mind of no thoughts and no beliefs, to a mind that is able to express one's thoughts linguistically? — Sam26
How are beliefs causally formed? It seems to be the case that beliefs arise causally within the mind based on the interactions between our sensory experiences and the world around us. — Sam26
This is how I think of it: Believing is a state of mind. It has duration; and that independently of the duration of its expression in a sentence, for example. So it is a kind of disposition of the believing person. This is shewn me in the case of someone else by his behaviour; and by his words. And under this head, by the expression "I believe . . .' as well as by the simple assertion. — Wittgenstein
t's not propositions all the way down. "Here is a hand" shows the hand. — Banno
The basic insight of OC remains: doubt only makes sense agains a background of certainty. But OC is incomplete, and muddled. — Banno
The exemplar I have provided for a certainty is the constitutive rule. It makes no sense to doubt a constitutive rule within the context of the game it helps create. — Banno
Demonstrating that your bedrock is your perceptual experience is demonstrating exactly that. — apokrisis
Our lives are full of uncertainties and we only get a glimpse of what certainty is really like. — Metaphysician Undercover
It's not based on perceptual experience per se. It's the participation in the shared language game that is pivotal. It's not an induction. — Banno
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