So your theory that meaning is thinking leads you to having an issue with truth.
Suppose instead that the meaning of a proposition is whatever you are doing with it. Then the meaning is a part of the world, not of thinking. — Banno
Nothing is ever written, spoken or displayed, that isn’t first thought. — Mww
Statements are generally about how things are. — Banno
It's not a matter of simply redefining meaning. It doesn't matter what wecall anything. — Terrapin Station
...do you use the definition that propositions are the meanings of statements? — Terrapin Station
I'm (vaguely)familiar with the introduction of CPR where Kant called judgment an innate talent that cannot be taught, etc. I disagree because judgment is far too complex a thought/process for a human to be born with already fully intact and working(innate). — creativesoul
Thinking is involved. It's just not the whole of it. — Banno
But as you are often inclined to say.....how does that work, to which I say.....change the realm of the correspondence and you’ll have the how, at least from one point of view. — Mww
But the place where meaning occurs, where correspondence occurs, etc. is brains in the process of thinking. — Terrapin Station
So the phrase "think before you speak" is meaningless to you? And what would "You don't know what you're talking about." mean? What is the language game being played when using those phrases?Do you really think the whole thing out before you set it into words? That's not my experience. The setting out happens with the thinking. — Banno
So the phrase "think before you speak" is meaningless to you? — Harry Hindu
One never thinks about the physicality of getting a fork to his mouth, but let something go haywire, and he invariably recalls the very physicality in order to figure out what happened. Given enough experience in some thing, attentive thinking diminishes with respect to that thing, but cannot be said to be non-existence. Otherwise, it would be impossible to recall anything at all. — Mww
The setting out happens after the thinking, although the time differential borders on immediate. But it obviously cannot be instantaneous. We see this in, e.g., when the eye looks aside during verbal communication. — Mww
The true itself, then ain't in the words themselves, but what they point at. — tim wood
In consequence, it must be that any discussion of any general notion of truth must itself be hopelessly general. That is, perfectly fine at a non-specific level of generality, but doomed to an aporia if tied to any specifics. — tim wood
By "judgment" I only mean that in some sense the truth of a true proposition is established (somehow) prior to the proposition. — tim wood
Is it a bit like creativesoul's "thought/belief" that wants it's language before it can speak? — Banno
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