There is zero doubt that Trump lies. I just acknowledge that some of his untruths are a product of ignorance, compounded with arrogance.So we’re you lying that they were lies? Shouldn’t you now apologize? — NOS4A2
I haven't been debating your views on Trump. I've been explaining why it is wrong to label reactions to him as "mass hysteria". Whether you embrace it or not, his level of untruthfulness is unprecedented for a President, so it should be no surprise that this results in unprecedented reactions.Yes, Trump isn’t some technocrat or academic or lawyer. He doesn’t speak eloquently like Obama, or apologize when he gets something wrong. But that’s the problem: all you guys want are slick talkers, people who will enforce the bounds of political correctness and sing you lullabies when the going gets tough. But what has a slick talker or ivy-league lawyer ever really done? What have they created?
President Trump is so eager to complete hundreds of miles of border fence ahead of the 2020 presidential election that he has directed aides to fast-track billions of dollars’ worth of construction contracts, aggressively seize private land and disregard environmental rules, according to current and former officials involved with the project.
He also has told worried subordinates that he will pardon them of any potential wrongdoing should they have to break laws to get the barriers built quickly, those officials said.
They don’t — NOS4A2
If true, that's contrary to faithfully executing the laws. Yet another valid article of impeachment.He also has told worried subordinates that he will pardon them of any potential wrongdoing should they have to break laws to get the barriers built quickly, those officials said
I haven't been debating your views on Trump. I've been explaining why it is wrong to label reactions to him as "mass hysteria". Whether you embrace it or not, his level of untruthfulness is unprecedented for a President, so it should be no surprise that this results in unprecedented reactions.
I am astounded that you attack the very notion that people, particularly leaders, should be truthful and held accountable when they're not. This takes partisan rationalization to an unpresedented level.
And yet we just agreed that slick talkers have made significant achievements, which apparently had nothing to their "powerless words". I thought that Hitler rose to fame and power through his speeches in the beer halls, and that Churchill's speeches boosted British morale during the war, but I must have just dreamt that.
You may know all his so-called “lies” and repeat them verbatim, but I wonder if you can express anything he said that was true? Or is that evidence the contrary strictly forbidden? — NOS4A2
Oh right, you believe in sorcery. — NOS4A2
Are you claiming it's false to claim he tells so many untruths - that it's all partisan distortion? !Trump talks a lot, but you limit yourself to the few bite-sized, quote-mined, out of context selections of the anti-Trump press — NOS4A2
Are you claiming it's false to claim he tells so many untruths - that it's all partisan distortion? !
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