Not a good start. I'll overlook it for now. — creativesoul
Philosophy of Knowledge and Reality
The Meaning of Reality
What do descriptive claims, that attempt to say what is real, even mean?
Bonus question:
What do mathematical claims, about numbers and geometric shapes and such, mean, and how do they relate to descriptive claims about reality?
The Objects of Reality
What are the criteria by which to judge descriptive claims, or what is it that makes something real?
The Methods of Knowledge
How are we to apply those criteria and decide on what to believe, what descriptive claims to agree with?
The Subjects of Reality
What is the nature of the mind, inasmuch as that means the capacity for believing and making such judgements about what to believe?
The Institutes of Knowledge
What is the proper educational system, or who should be making those descriptive judgements and how should they relate to each other and others, socially speaking?
Bonus question: How do we get people to care about education and knowledge and reality to begin with?
The Importance of Knowledge
Why does is matter what is real or not, true or false, in the first place? — Pfhorrest
The meaning of any and all things meaningful consists entirely of the correlations being drawn. — creativesoul
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piero_SraffaWittgenstein was insisting that a proposition and that which it describes must have the same 'logical form', the same 'logical multiplicity'. Sraffa made a gesture, familiar to Neapolitans as meaning something like disgust or contempt, of brushing the underneath of his chin with an outward sweep of the finger-tips of one hand. And he asked: 'What is the logical form of that?'
...For obvious reasons it's difficult to talk about non-linguistic thought and belief. — Eee
What is the gong-tormented sea? Is there a clear distinction between the metaphorical and the literal? What part does sound play in meaning? Or feeling? The 'correlations' approach seems oversimplified. What exactly is a correlation in this context? — Eee
This is a theme I like. Universal criteria. And that's why the philosopher isn't exactly or simply the solitary ego. Whim or mere opinion is no interest, correct? Correct thinking isn't 'just me' thinking. It let's the thoughts evolve as they 'must.' I don't mean anything mystical. I'm just trying to analyze what we vaguely mean by universal criteria or being reasonable.
We already know how to be reasonable, so it's just a matter of bringing what we mean to a greater vividness, focusing. — Eee
"One's understanding of the text as a whole is established by reference to the individual parts and one's understanding of each individual part by reference to the whole. " — Eee
The Methods of Knowledge
How are we to apply those criteria and decide on what to believe, what descriptive claims to agree with? — Pfhorrest
I don't want to shut down that conversation but I still don't see what any of it has to do with the OP of this thread, and never have. — Pfhorrest
The Subjects of Reality
What is the nature of the mind, inasmuch as that means the capacity for believing and making such judgements about what to believe? — Pfhorrest
[W]e aim to construct a single mathematical object ... [ToE] that will turn out to be just is concrete reality: "concrete" is indexical, it signifies only the mathematical structure of which we are also a part. Other mathematical objects are just like it, ontologically, except that we aren't a part of them; they are purely abstract, with no connection to the object of which we are a part. This is unlike Platonism in that it doesn't posit that there is the world we're familiar with and then separately some kind of Heaven full of Forms. In terms comparable to that, I'd say that there are only Forms, no Heaven in which they exist, and one of those Forms just is the concrete universe we're familiar with (which, like most mathematical objects, is constructed out of lots and lots of copies of simpler objects, which is why we see other "Forms" expressed within our concrete world). — Pfhorrest
The Institutes of Knowledge
What is the proper educational system, or who should be making those descriptive judgements and how should they relate to each other and others, socially speaking? — Pfhorrest
Philosophy of Justice and Morality
The Meaning of Morality
What do prescriptive claims, that attempt to say what is moral, even mean?
Bonus question: What do aesthetic claims, about beauty and comedy and tragedy and such, mean, and how do they relate to prescriptive claims about morality?
The Objects of Morality
What are the criteria by which to judge prescriptive claims, or what makes something moral?
The Methods of Justice
How are we to apply those criteria and decide on what to intend, what prescriptive claims to agree with?
The Subjects of Morality
What is the nature of the will, inasmuch as that means the capacity for intending and making such judgements about what to intend?
The Institutes of Justice
What is the proper governmental system, or who should be making those prescriptive judgements and how should they relate to each other and others, socially speaking?
Bonus question: How do we get people to care about governance and justice and morality to begin with?
The Importance of Justice
Why does is matter what is moral or not, good or bad, in the first place?
Bonus question:
What is the meaning of life? — Pfhorrest
"3.21 Like Zen koans which provoke a suspension of conceptual thinking, works of art in particular (and aesthetic experiences in general) prompt suspension of ego - what Iris Murdoch referred to as unselfing - by presenting sensationally or emotionally heightened encounters with the nonself which make it more likely than not for one to forget oneself for the moment if not longer.
3.22 Altruism - judging, by action or inaction, not to do harm to another - begins with learning and practicing techniques for forgetting oneself: unselfing: suspending ego. (Ecstatic techniques (e.g. making art.)) This is the moral benefit of art, but not its function.
3.23 The function of making art (along with morality & rationality (see 2.5)) is to help expand - develop - Agency, or to inversely limit its shadow: Foolery (see 1.1)"
— 180 Proof
Is it possible you could go a little more in depth here please? I find your view of Art, Aesthetics and Morality a possible point of interest for myself.
Especially in regard to the bold. — I like sushi
Bonus question: How do we get people to care about education and knowledge and reality to begin with? — Pfhorrest
The Importance of Knowledge
Why does is matter what is real or not, true or false, in the first place? — Pfhorrest
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