Despite that, over 87% of people reported that “individual initiative” is what helped them escape poverty. — NOS4A2
The real issue is if the ways to get out of povetry diminish or grow.
In our meritocratic World education is the important way for upward social mobility. If there are no stipends, no way for even a very talented pupil to get into the best schools, then there is a huge problem. If the only route is joining the armed forces...that cannot be good.
Yes, there is risk involved there, in the sense that high-reward investment will involve a lot of short-term ups and downs along the way toward gradual long-term gains.
Actually, having just skimmed the world bank study that you link to, it appears you're being somewhat misleading. The study supports the importance of both initiative and opportunity for upward mobility.
My aim is not wasting my time on someone who keeps going out of his way to spread lies and disinformation, which is again the case with your qualification. It's telling you qualify it as propaganda. Projection much?
Actually, having just skimmed the world bank study that you link to, it appears you're being somewhat misleading. The study supports the importance of both initiative and opportunity for upward mobility.
– praxis
Given this information, is it then true or false that “personal choices have very little to do with socio-economic (upward) mobility”? — NOS4A2
As the world bank study supports, that depends on opportunity.
A prisoner can escape their confinement and validly claim that it was 100% their individual initiative that allowed them to escape. The ease of their escape would, of course, depend on the available opportunities.
Dude. You're a joke. I only laugh at you so I'm certainly not offended by anything you say. I thought I was being helpful towards you to let you know you don't need to reply to me as I have no interest whatsoever to have a discussion with you on any topic.
87% of people who were asked how they escaped poverty said they did so through “individual initiative”... — NOS4A2
All by itself too... no other forces were at work... it's all individual initiative...
All by itself too... no other forces were at work... it's all individual initiative...
All you and your fellow travellers can do is imply that the people who reported on these questions are lying. But perhaps their claims are sincere while yours are mistaken. — NOS4A2
Apologies, looks like I was arguing with the wrong person.I already offered an extreme example of predatory lending, that of payday loans.
Why don't you agree with folk on occasion and discuss the issues themselves, rather than this false them and us reactionary rhetoric?All you and your fellow travellers can do is imply that the people who reported on these questions are lying. But perhaps their claims are sincere while yours are mistaken.
Why don't you agree with folk on occasion and discuss the issues themselves, rather than this false them and us reactionary rhetoric?
You remind me of Dick Dastardly in The whacky Races.
Or is this all part of the Trumpian divide and rule rhetoric?
Discard the voices of the poor as irrelevant, eh? Then what is relevant? The claims of some life-long politician who has lived off tax-payer dollars the majority of his life? Some other member of the professional-managerial class, perhaps? These people do not care about the poor; they use the poor. — NOS4A2
Punshhh has a point, you make a caricature of yourself with this kind of crap. Like a wind-up troll doll set to auto repeat.
Are you unwilling or simply incapable of addressing anything I argue? If it’s not ad hominem, it’s straw men and false accusations. I wonder if you actually think it works or if it is merely an opportunity to display your bona fides to those trapped within your bubble. — NOS4A2
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