The problem people have with you is that you're intellectually dishonest because you give the impression of being a paid troll. Which is a not unreasonable assumption for someone who comes on here every day almost exclusively to spout Trumpian propaganda. Especially someone who's not American and should have little skin in the game. So, expect to be treated with the contempt you most likely deserve.
Discard the voices of the poor as irrelevant, eh — NOS4A2
I don’t know the statistics but I would guess mortgages and credit card debt comprise the bulk of personal borrowing in the US. — praxis
Perhaps I misunderstood, but when you said “we could grant it all, and still discard it as irrelevant information, because that's exactly what it is”, I believed you meant it. But if I was wrong I apologize. — NOS4A2
...I don't want to call you crazy, because I feel more sympathy than anything else toward you, but yeah that seems crazy to me. — Pfhorrest
I am sacrificing and postponing major things to safeguard my future, yes. Mostly, I'm living in a much smaller space than many people would accept, and consequently can't live with the woman who would be my wife if only we could live together. — Pfhorrest
I used to be of the mindset that I was fine not worrying about money, going broke was no big deal, etc, back when all going broke meant was not eating for a while, because I had a free roof over my head (the roof my the tool shed next to my dad's trailer, but still). Ever since that got taken away, my top priority became to get back to a place where I could stop worrying about money like that again, where going broke wouldn't mean I would lose absolutely everything, because if I didn't constantly pay someone else for a right to exist somewhere, I would lose any right to exist anywhere. That seems like it should be the most basic of things a human being is entitled to, but apparently we're expected to fight our entire lives just to try to attain it and even then it may all be for nothing. — Pfhorrest
I get it. I’m not welcome here. I can take a hint. — NOS4A2
I get it. I’m not welcome here. I can take a hint. — NOS4A2
The idea that you can "move upwards" is an illusion.
Then why do I - someone who is enlisted military - work around plenty of people who were born into poverty and are now middle class and able to afford homes? Some service members own several homes. This is just not true. — BitconnectCarlos
You know there are plenty of examples of people who simply don't get the opportunities or resources that other people do.
People are just a helpless bunch, aren't they? — BitconnectCarlos
Credit card companies are allowed to charge upwards of 30% interest for the remaining life of the loan if the borrower is late just once. That is predatory lending, especially given the way compound interest accrues and is satisfied. — creativesoul
Going from working class to middle class may be considered "upward mobility," I suppose. But, like I said, that's really an illusion. You have as much power in this country as myself or a janitor.
I'm sure you feel proud about it, to the point where you can now look down on the people making less money than you or not taken care of by the government as you are, as simply weak and lazy and stupid. It's a very self-serving position: I got to where I am because of hard work and merit, and anyone else can as well if they weren't so lazy and didn't choose to be coddled.
Well since you yourself are one of these "people," do you consider yourself helpless? OK then, neither to they. That's not what I'm suggesting. I'm dealing with facts, on which we presumably agree: one group of people do not have access to the same resources and do not get the same opportunities as another group of people. You, for example, will never be a general or a CEO. Never.
I honestly don't even care what people do or how much they earn, but if someone is going to do nothing to even attempt to get their situation in order and then blame the system on it I'm so done with them. — BitconnectCarlos
If someone is able to foresee a problem 40-50 years away and proceeds to ignore it and then finds themselves in dire straits, well, maybe look to yourself first before blaming the entire system. — BitconnectCarlos
Well since you yourself are one of these "people," do you consider yourself helpless? OK then, neither to they. That's not what I'm suggesting. I'm dealing with facts, on which we presumably agree: one group of people do not have access to the same resources and do not get the same opportunities as another group of people. You, for example, will never be a general or a CEO. Never.
I would never want to be a general, — BitconnectCarlos
They have zero privacy. They need a caravan of security and other high ranking officers around them at all times. God, what a terrible life. — BitconnectCarlos
You're also probably right that I'll never be a CEO of some big company, — BitconnectCarlos
I'm also a bit of a mover and a shaker, by the way. My salary is not my only form of income. I'm a semi-professional poker player (live near a casino), pretty decent investor/trader, and churning credit cards has netted me a few extra grand here and there. But I suppose none of this stability "really" matters because I'll never be a fortune 500 CEO or a billionaire. — BitconnectCarlos
Your attitude contributes to your problem. Wealth isn't made in a day, it's often made through generations. Just upping yourself by one class and being able to raise your children in that class is a huge accomplishment. It's sad that you don't see this. — BitconnectCarlos
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