A fine article. I noted one example that he gave, which was surprising:Plus his data is all sourced. He's just giving the most clear and sensible interpretation. — Baden
Sounds incredible that China can put 9 000 people to track infected persons, but I believe it. When you just think that nearly all dangerous epidemics and pandemics have come from China, perhaps they really have had training, they have learned something and have an incentive to do something about this... especially as the country has become wealthy.But China’s is good too. The lengths at which it went to contain the virus are mind-boggling. For example, they had up to 1,800 teams of 5 people each tracking every infected person, everybody they got interacted with, then everybody those people interacted with, and isolating the bunch. That’s how they were able to contain the virus across a billion-people country.
This is not what Western countries have done. And now it’s too late.
With just 102 cases, New Zealand is ordering a full month-long lockdown. This is the hammer. This is intelligence applied to policy. And this will work. — Baden
When you just think that nearly all dangerous epidemics and pandemics have come from China, perhaps they really have had training, they have learned something and have an incentive to do something about this... especially as the country has become wealthy. — ssu
South Korea cases have exploded, but have you wondered why Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, Thailand or Hong Kong haven’t?
All of them were hit by SARS in 2003, and all of them learned from it. They learned how viral and lethal it could be, so they knew to take it seriously. That’s why all of their graphs, despite starting to grow much earlier, still don’t look like exponentials. — Coronavirus: Why You Must Act Now
When you just think that nearly all dangerous epidemics and pandemics have come from China — ssu
So the UK is locked down. We're only allowed to leave our houses for food, for exercise once a day, and if we can't work from home and our work is essential.
I miss the days where I was just worried about Brexit.
Also, their people are sensible and do the right thing when asked.Edit: If you look at Chart 13b - NPI Measures Per Country, you'll see that South Korea had very few travel bans and closures. That's because they were ahead of the virus in their testing and contact tracing
Good on them, I almost moved there a couple of years ago, love the place. I just couldn't get used to all the rugby and beer, no antiques and the lack of culture.With just 102 cases, New Zealand is ordering a full month-long lockdown. This is the hammer. This is intelligence applied to policy. And this will work.
It isn't easy, but South Korea (and others) have done it. — Andrew M
They built a huge hospital in ten days. They staffed a ward with robots. They are way ahead of the game. — Baden
You believe news emanating from the CCP?? — Nobeernolife
I think that the conversation moved on from here overnight. I can't think of another social scourge which has an equivalence to the pandemic. Simply because the pandemic is an exponential threat, so a stitch in time saves nine.Ok, how about gun violence? The reaction to gun violence vs coronavirus is down to mythology. I'll stand by that.
This is true (well, I cannot verify that particular case, but the response has been huge). And this is the reason why we shouldn't be calm that China with it's huge population has had officially just few thousand cases.They built a huge hospital in ten days. They staffed a ward with robots. They are way ahead of the game. — Baden
Start with the Black Death. Plus the "Asian flu" Influenza A H2N2 of 1956-1958, the Hong Kong flu (even if back then it was British). Yes, epidemics and pandemics emerge from various places, but the history of having to tackle these diseases are the reason why China has had to take for example zoonotic diseases far more seriously than for example Italy.SARS, I grant, had its origin in China. — StreetlightX
It isn't easy, but South Korea (and others) have done it.
— Andrew M
...and South Koreas death rate is 8 times higher than Japan, that has not done it. So that proves what? — Nobeernolife
Over 46,000 infections and 530 deaths recorded, putting America on course to overtake Italy in number of cases.
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Authorities have suggested the US is on track to eventually overtake China’s nearly 82,000 infections.
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