The difference between Trump and Biden is marginal from any perspective but the US perspective. — Benkei
Only because you make it so. You're caught in the circular logic of saying you need to do what makes it necessary for you to do what you did. — Baden
I'm advocating for progressives to say this to the Dems:
"Give us what we want or fuck off." — Baden
It's clear, simple, and the only thing that has a hope of getting the weasels in the DNC to take on significant progressive policies. — Baden
Yes, and in 2016 the Dems didn't listen because they were sure Hillary would win. They ain't so sure now, I can tell you. — Baden
And: Never ever give something away for free that could be used as leverage to get something in return. — Baden
Electing Trump isn't holding them accountable. — Xtrix
He's already made concessions. I mentioned some already. Is it more or less "delusional" than believing Trump will be swayed by pressure? — Xtrix
That actually happened, in no small degree thanks to those who sat out or voted third party — Xtrix
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in a system which essentially will be a choice A or B?
— Frank Apisa
Only because you make it so. You're caught in the circular logic of saying you need to do what makes it necessary for you to do what you do. — Baden
It's mind-blowing. — Xtrix
Electing Trump isn't holding them accountable.
— Xtrix
Actually that's exactly what it is and no amount of double-speak will change that fact. — StreetlightX
That actually happened, in no small degree thanks to those who sat out or voted third party
— Xtrix
Electoral gaslighting - "look what you made me do". DNC lackey. — StreetlightX
See, the problem is you think this is a difference of persons. It's not. I already explained the power in the USA is held by the respective parties. — Benkei
It's not meaningful to say "they're both corrupt but he's destroying the environment". So you'll save the environment by losing your privacy. What kind of choice is that? — Benkei
We're talking about actually voting, not rolling over to the DNC. — Xtrix
Wonderful. It worked well last time, didn't it? — Xtrix
We're talking about actually voting, not rolling over to the DNC.
— Xtrix
Ah yes, not rolling over to the DNC by ... doing exactly what the DNC wants. — StreetlightX
Wonderful. It worked well last time, didn't it?
— Xtrix
Yes, much like how the mobilization of hunderds and thousands of people worked so well to gain Bernie the nomination hey? — StreetlightX
has changed the DNC — Xtrix
God they must love people like you. — StreetlightX
Frank was reduced to babbling insults and this guy reduced to, well, the same.
It's like people who support Biden are totally incapable of coherent argumentation.
Which makes sense. There's no there there. — StreetlightX
DNC lackey. — StreetlightX
Maybe you've learnt one too many lessons from Trump. — StreetlightX
You offer literal contradictions and expect to be taken seriously. What a joke. — StreetlightX
You're a sucker and everyone but you knows it. — StreetlightX
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Frank was reduced to babbling insults — StreetlightX
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