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↪Baden This is Linda Hirshman with a fuck-ton more interest in the question than you'll ever have.
From the NYT
"I’ll vote for Mr. Biden this fall.
I won’t say it will be easy. I have been writing on and agitating for women’s equality since “The Feminine Mystique” came out in 1963. I know how supposedly “liberal” men abused the sexual revolution in every imaginable way. I am unimpressed by their lip service to feminism, their Harvard degrees or their donations to feminist causes.
In 1998, I was one of a few establishment feminists to argue on behalf of Monica Lewinsky, when the unofficial representative of the movement, Gloria Steinem, threw her under the bus in the pages of The New York Times to protect Bill Clinton. I maintained my position until, two decades and a #MeToo movement later, Ms. Steinem issued a non-apology for the essay. So I hate, hate, hate to say the following.
Suck it up and make the utilitarian bargain.
All major Democratic Party figures have indicated they’re not budging on the presumptive nominee, and the transaction costs of replacing him would be suicidal. Barring some miracle, it’s going to be Mr. Biden."
She says dispense with the "gotcha" you chimps. — frank
asked for a viewpoint from posters here. I can't exactly carry on a debate with her, can I? Or do you just want me to dig up quotes from those who don't support Biden as a riposte? And there's nothing to what she said as it stands. It was "I'm a feminist and I support Biden because > utilitarianism". That's it. Period. So, what does that add to the conversation, frank? — Baden
Maybe it's a politically motivated false accusation; it should not end the campaign (it should be investigated asap due to the public's need for accurate information about their candidates IMO). But the fact that democratic loud and bleeding hearts are exceptionally silent on this is just loathsome. You can't kick up an ultimate fuss about rape-culture and then not look stupid when you do a full speed 180 the moment it's no longer convenient... — VagabondSpectre
"WhY sAcriFiciNG 1000 ViRgINs On the AlTaR oF CThULhU iS nOt As BAD aS a sECoND TruMP PreSideNCY, aND wHy iM voTinG for BiDeN" — VagabondSpectre
Not only do they lose the election but they also lose any moral high ground they had over the GOP with women, and suburban moms stay at home disgusted at both parties. — Baden
but there is actually a cost for throwing principles to the wind — VagabondSpectre
Just to add to that, nationally, Biden is currently losing with men and ahead with women by 20 points. If he doesn't maintain a significant lead with women going into the election, he's a goner. The GOP are licking their lips at this. — Baden
I agree. It is pathetic that I have to make this choice. A second Trump term will be a catastrophe for the US & the world. I would vote for a trained seal over Trump - provided that the trainer was a Democrat. I wish the dems could find a better candidate than Biden. — EricH
They don't care. It's psychopathy at this point in the DNC. — Shawn
accused rapist — Baden
But if it were a choice between an accused pedophile Joe Biden and Trump...
...I would choose Biden before Trump in an instant. — Frank Apisa
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