Was Judas a hero and most trusted disciple, or a traitor? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
He justified his actions in his own mind — prothero
Judas was a little of all three (we humans are complex). He justified his actions in his own mind just as we all justify our own less than noble actions on a daily basis. — prothero
Sorry I can't post pictures. — TheMadFool
It's the monotheists who deviated (reformed) the older religion. — Marchesk
Borges did a really great treatment of this — csalisbury
Was Judas a good man doing Jesus’ will or was he a traitor? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Jesus turned around and said to Peter, "Get away from me, Satan! You are an obstacle in my way, because these thoughts of yours don't come from God, but from human nature." — Matthew 16:23 (Good News Translation)
Was Judas a good man doing Jesus’ will or was he a traitor? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
True, but he did not know where to land. My position, which seems to be the correct one.
Regards
DL — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Mainstream christianity seems to treat Judas as a traitor, that's for sure. I don't see how anyone could defend Judas with all the evidence stacked against him like that. Consider this though: who, if anyone, could've known the way things would pan out between Jesus and Judas and also be in a position of power to make Judas change his decision to betray the son of god to his enemies? God? — TheMadFool
This reminds me, we also don't understand who the devil/satan is as an individual and what he symbolises in the inner/greater expression of human life.
And there seems to be more to the crucifixion plan than the disciples knew because Jesus refers to Peter as Satan when he refuses to accept Jesus' suffering and eventual death: — BrianW
If it's another book it's another topic or source. — Outlander
From the human point of view, he seemed to fail himself - didn't he suffer a mental breakdown and commit suicide (or something)? — BrianW
Was Judas a hero and most trusted disciple, or a traitor? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
he was a traitor, the bodily form of envy - and perhaps also, of greed -. — Gus Lamarch
Judas is, — TheMadFool
the immorality of that plan. — Banno
A fictional character who accepted the glory and task of facilitating Jesus testing the old messianic myth.
Jesus failed it and basically screwed Judas, and his belief in Jesus, over.
The sop giving is Jesus honoring Judas, even as it was making him an accomplice in his suicide.
The sop was always given to honor the recipient and seal deal.
Regards
DL — Gnostic Christian Bishop
the capture of Jesus — TheMadFool
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