Yep, we've already established that in some cases some types of reform can be achieved through peaceful means, we're talking about the cases and reform types where peaceful means seem to have failed in a timescale those suffering from the injustice feel is no longer reasonable to ask them to wait. — Isaac
No, it's not about sidetracking to some other issue. It's fundamental to your argument that the properties and livelihoods being damaged in the riots are both innocent and a net loss to the community. — Isaac
I don't think I do need to look it up, because it's probably Latin.
the consequences of rioting are either trivial (in the case of a bit of bystander property damage)
You're wanting to take that away from them on the ground that a few people might have to find another job. — Isaac
I don't mean to pick you out, but this has getting my goat for some time. This is supposed to be a discussion forum, it's not a fucking football match. What exactly is this cheer-leading supposed to achieve? — Isaac
You're a bit confused, my man, missing the forest for the trees: in a nutshell - why no one should buy this used roll of toilet paper Bolton's selling. — 180 Proof
What other economic system could there be, given that money, which is essential to any complex economy, in the absence of strict central control, by accumulation necessarily gives rise to capital. — Janus
plenty of people think the tax code is unfair are we going to throw rocks through windows and assault business owners until that's fixed? — BitconnectCarlos
I don't think I do need to look it up, because it's probably Latin.
It's basically a conclusion which doesn't logically follow from the premises. — BitconnectCarlos
It amazes me how destroying someone's livelihood and in some cases personal business that they've saved up for their entire life is "trivial." — BitconnectCarlos
Just because I'm angry doesn't condone me punching you or destroying your business. Honestly, you learn this at like 5 years old. — BitconnectCarlos
If you had your own business in one of those streets would you be okay with people destroying it? Honest question - they're just angry about racial injustice, who are you to deny them that expression? — BitconnectCarlos
Who are the guilty?
Burn more shit, it works. — StreetlightX
But wanton violence against random places that just happen to be nearby? No. — Pfhorrest
There's a difference between a peaceful protest and a riot.Is property damage ever a good tactical decision in a protest? — Isaac
I'd be pretty pissed off I should think. I don't see why how I'd feel about it should come above how the community feel about their plight. Why should I ask a group of underprivileged, down-beaten protestors who've just had one of their community murdered to give a shit about my feelings here? — Isaac
Sure, and what if they wanted to destroy and loot your house after? I mean it's just the voice of the under-privileged, who are you to object? — BitconnectCarlos
Surely those small business owners who had their livelihoods destroyed and the businesses that they built up over the years have no valid claim against the voice of the under-class, though. — BitconnectCarlos
Why would they? They're angry, it doesn't mean they've somehow turned into unfeeling sociopaths. — Isaac
Destroying someone’s workplace can leave them homeless and destitute almost as easily as destroying their home can, so if empathy prevents the latter it seems it should also prevent the former. — Pfhorrest
At no point do we start laying into the rioters for not having the stoicism to suffer in silence whist the people who actually caused the whole situation remain unassailed. — Isaac
Worth noting how different the US was back then too in general, btw.Worth also noting that Martin "peaceful" Luther "protest" King had disapproval ratings at levels far worse than current day BLM — StreetlightX
I’m not, and so far as I can see here nobody else is either. They’re just asking for sympathy for the innocents wrongly caught up in that angry reaction, in addition to sympathy for the righteously angry people. — Pfhorrest
and they are to blame for the damage caused by making an entire community so furious and desperate that they resort to rioting. — Isaac
Who are the guilty?
Those who commit violence against the innocent. — NOS4A2
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