It is you who excused Saddam's murders and tried to prevent the police from arresting the murderer. Maybe it's you who doesn't like Iraqis. — Paul Edwards
This is the third straw man you've raised and the first one I'm reacting to. You should respond to what I say not to things you make up. — Benkei
Just like I think the police should adhere to rules regardless of the victim, so is it here
I am curious at what mental blocks exist that prevent people from understanding that criminals need to be brought to justice, and whether there is a combination of words that can persuade them of this. Or whether it really does require goons knocking on their door before they return to reality. — Paul Edwards
The threat seems too distant to many folks for them to take it seriously. — Hippyhead
why didn't you play off one fascist against another to get the end result, — Paul Edwards
And you seem to be policing America, despite America being a sovereign nation — Paul Edwards
Yeah, it must be mental blocks causing people to disagree — Benkei
Can you also answer Benkei's message — Paul Edwards
If the Iraq invasion had been an honest enterprise there would have been no need to lie and cheat and invent fake reasons for it. — FrancisRay
Had you had your way, Saddam and his sons would still be attaching jumper cables to the genitals of anyone who got in their way. — Hippyhead
Just think about why that projection is difficult:If Australia had a cruel dictator, I think 99% of Australians would be against him too. I projected Australia onto Iraq. — Paul Edwards
And ask yourself, why is that?Note that I saw an Iraqi opinion poll where Saddam was only viewed favorably by 5% of the population. That shows that 5% with automatic weapons are able to suppress 95%. I believed, and still believe, that with automatic weapons and a properly organized security force, it is possible to subjugate 99% of the population. — Paul Edwards
Actually, we know now that Operation Desert Fox in 1998 destroyed the last remnants of Saddam Hussein's WMD projects. The real threat of Hussein getting a nuclear weapon was before the invasion of Kuwait and Desert Storm. Then in 1998 it was just a sham that Hussein himself kept up for appearances. Afterwards, totally nonexistent. And actually the UN observers noted this already before the 2003, but who would listen to them. Nope, it was "yellow cake from Niger".The entire Middle East would probably now be engaged in a frantic nuclear arms race.
The hyper sloppy logic of the war's critics is that they never compare the invasion to what the reality would have been without the invasion. — Hippyhead
Sorry, but there simply is no fucking 911 to call for a police in this World when it comes to sovereign states. It's anarchy out their.If Saddam moved in next door to you and you started to hear screams coming from the house, would you call the police or not? It's a yes or no question, because you would either pick up the phone and dial 911, or you would sit there listening to the screams. One, or the other. No amount of sophisticated fancy talk liberates us from the yes/no nature of that choice. — Hippyhead
Starts a war that in the end helps Iran.Bush invades Iraq, improving the situation. — Hippyhead
Does not intervene in an ongoing civil war.Obama does nothing in Syria, opening the door to chaos. — Hippyhead
The real threat of Hussein getting a nuclear weapon was before the invasion of Kuwait and Desert Storm. — ssu
If you note the supporters of war here you'll note they're not considering all the factors but just pushing an ideology. — FrancisRay
I'm surprised to find we disagree on this. I suspect it's very difficult for you guys over there to see the wood for the trees, so powerful is the 24/7 political propaganda. At least you might ask yourself why Britain was about the only country to support Bush's war. Why not more? — FrancisRay
Oh well. I must retire from the forum I think — FrancisRay
This is an irrelevant question, as you must surely be aware — FrancisRay
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