We're going in circles. This is the flaw in your theory that makes this ridiculous:HERE ARE MY SPECIFIC WORDS below. — Roger Gregoire
...your theory seems to assume that the vast majority of viruses in an environment find themselves inside human bodies in 7 days. I question that assumption. — InPitzotl
...and those are your specific words....an irrelevant red herring. — Roger Gregoire
Joe, John are in the same environment if they are in a kitchen. John cannot eat any pie that Joe eats. But if there are 10 pies and Joe and John together can only eat 5, division is inappropriate.Assuming Joe, John and the pie are all together in the same environment (e.g. John's kitchen). -- For every slice of the pie that Joe eats, means that there is one less slice that John can eat. — Roger Gregoire
I suggest that your frustration is that I don't agree with something you think is obvious. But I suggest you're not thinking about the situation because you're too busy defending what you think is obvious to realize what's actually relevant, and this affects your original premise because it makes your conclusions irrelevant while it leaves you the mistaken belief that it's obvious....wow. — Roger Gregoire
Requiring healthy citizens to get vaccinated against a virus that is not particularly deadly — whilst using a vaccine not particularly efficacious — neatly enables the claim that the virus' ongoing non-virulence results from the vaccine.
The reasoning is circular but familiar. — Natherton
This is a rehash of Roger's other thread, with the same, previously debunked lies. It should be merged. — Banno
Those with healthy immune systems, when infected, attack and kill the virus, thereby "removing" more of the virus from the environment, than they contribute. — Roger Gregoire
I'm interpreting your meaning to be that you have a different set of opinions. — Tres Bien
This is hardly the place to be offering up absolute declarations of fact and truth, especially with additional verbal abuse attached, would you say? — Tres Bien
I'm afraid you have it backwards Roger:I challenge you to prove me wrong. — Roger Gregoire
What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. — Hitchen's razor
If this was the true logic then people with adequate immune systems wouldn’t require vaccination from any disease that is mild for them. But we know that vaccination serves not only to reduce the intensity of symptoms but also prevent transmission by curbing the maximum viral load. — Benj96
Those with healthy immune systems don’t “replicate less of the virus” it is simply that they don’t succumb to severe symptoms of the infection. — Benj96
No one believes that they catch Covid directly from other people's lungs… — Kenosha Kid
Roger Roger, let's all of us healthy individuals get out there and vacuum up all those viruses out of the environment and into our lungs, to make it more safe for the less healthy. — Metaphysician Undercover
How do you discern in your mind whether any particular concept that you hold is false or unlikely or likely or true or otherwise plausibly indiscernible.? What metrics do you use? What is the nature of proof? In other words, what is the difference between your opinions and your knowledge? — Tres Bien
That is astonishing stupidity. Really top class! — counterpunch
Most of what is breathed in comes right back out. There is the exchange of oxygen and carbon dioxide because our metabolism are little campfires. Viruses are not transformed through respiration in a similar manner. Some of them enter the system and the others go right back out. Spreading happens when the virus is close enough to other people (who are breathing) such that the exhalation of a carrier is inhaled by others. — Valentinus
Making stuff up isn't a valid epistemic approach.People with healthy immune systems develop antibodies, which in most cases, provides better protection than does vaccination. — Roger Gregoire
Without any supporting logic/rational, you are only exposing (to all of us) your lack of intelligence. For any unintelligent person can make this type of claim. So why not show us your intelligence and prove me wrong? Those that resort to casting insults are those that have nothing rational left to argue with. — Roger Gregoire
The point of Non-Truth # 1 was to dispel the belief that people infect other people. — Roger Gregoire
For example, we hear the propaganda slogan "Wear your mask to protect others" (or to protect your neighbors grandma, etc). The point is that grandma (and others) only get infected because they went into contaminated areas, and not necessarily because you and I did or did not wear a mask. — Roger Gregoire
I wholly reserve my right to be unintelligent on occasion. — countetpunch
...it certainly isn't based in a scientific understanding of microbiology? — counterpunch
Wearing a mask reduces the probability of you contaminating an area. — Kenosha Kid
healthy people who would normally remove more of the virus than they contribute — Roger Gregoire
But then, you would probably be too sick to go out in public environments in the first place. — Roger Gregoire
But masking healthy people who would normally remove more of the virus than they contribute — Roger Gregoire
Firstly, do you believe the concept of "herd immunity" is true? Do you believe there is such a thing as a "protective effect" by mixing healthy people into a group of vulnerable people? — Roger Gregoire
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