As many people in this thread have tried pointing out to you, the very notion of omnipotence is inherently illogical. — EricH
Can an omnipotent being create another being more omnipotent than itself? If no, then such a being is not omnipotent because there is something that it cannot do.
If yes, then you have an infinite number of omnipotent beings, each of which creates a yet more omnipotent being - and thus there is no omnipotent being. — EricH
Ass-backwards again! :rofl:That's the Dunning Kruger effect. You need to be an expert to recognize one. — Bartricks
I couldn't bother but I'm glad you did. :clap:My question is how reason implies the existence of god? Reason is a contingent property of minds and before we discuss properties of god's mind, we need to first prove god's existence. Basically, you can go from dog to brown dog but not from brown to brown dog. You've put the cart before the horse. — TheMadFool
However, we must distinguish between two very different perceptions of what God's omnipotence entails; on the one hand, there is the interpretation of the Thomist, which is that omnipotence is the power to exercise any given set of actions so long as they hold intelligibility - i.e whatever is logically possible. This follows from the idea that the divine will follows the intellect. The other interpretation is one pedaled by William of Ockham, a voluntarist, who forwarded the claim that God's omnipotence entails that all may be willed and accomplished, regardless of whether or not it is in any way intelligible. — Questio
Yes, of course an omnipotent being can create another omnipotent being. He can do anything, so he can do that. — Bartricks
There will not be more than one omnipotent being. This is because otherwise one could frustrate the other and thus neither would truly be omnipotent. — Bartricks
So can the omnipotent being create another being that is MORE omnipotent than him? If yes, then that newly created more omnipotent being can create yet another that is even more omnipotent. Lather, rinse and repeat and infinite number of times. — EricH
So an omnipotent being cannot create another being that is equally omnipotent - that would be terribly frustrating for those poor omnipotent beings. — EricH
Why would an omnipotent being do anything? — Uglydelicious
How do we know an omnipotent being isn’t doing everything, always? — Uglydelicious
He can do contradictory things. But he hasn't. — Bartricks
So, he 'can' create a being more powerful than himself, but he hasn't. — Bartricks
I’m not an expert in the matter, — Wayfarer
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So can the omnipotent being create another being that is MORE omnipotent than him? If yes, then that newly created more omnipotent being can create yet another that is even more omnipotent. Lather, rinse and repeat and infinite number of times.
— EricH — Bartricks
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