The color red is innate to people with normal color vision, calling it red is a learned cultural convention. — magritte
At least all of the above. — magritte
If we block a child in a room all of his childhood teaching him the green colour while is actually yellow. Will he name all of his life “green” when he would actually see yellow? In this topic John Locke answered this is a perfect empirical experiment so he put the following sentence:
What you are trying to say is that complex terms like colours are not innate because we can teach children to misunderstand mixing them. I guess this is the same example of fearness. You can feel the fear because previously someone taught you what is darkness, witches, demons, etc... — John Locke.
If we match up the color wheel with the electromagic spectrum of light, it passes through all the colours, but not through purple. Violet may look a bit like purple, but it has nothing to do with red. What is going on?
The eye has certain receptors on the retina that detect color, the "cones." These come with three different sensitivities. Hence the three "primary" colors. True purple, for which there seems to be no place in the physical spectrum, is something we see when the cones sensitive to blue and red are both stimulated, giving us something like an imaginary color. — John Locke.
respond to (or otherwise experience) in a distinct manner roughly the same set of external stimuli that we call red, independently of learning the word? — bongo fury
One at a time, please. — bongo fury
Physically we can only see light which comes in many shades of grey. — magritte
record three slightly different black and white image frames — magritte
So, external stimuli are only red if we say so, preferably based on universal, if not then cultural agreement. — magritte
would that answer the question? — T Clark
I don't know. Show me your red. — Fooloso4
Boom! — counterpunch
The different issues deserve separating. Happy to discuss the article. His internal definitions are confusing, and I'm not sure it's our fault. — bongo fury
Do you think the red type of internal sensation is determined innately, and/or independently of learning the word? — bongo fury
I don't know. Show me your red.
— Fooloso4
You're saying I can't, because it's private? — bongo fury
If I cut both of you, and you bleed, whatever word, phrase, or as it really is "sound" you assign to the color we all see, — Outlander
I'm saying there is no way to compare. Anything that you show me would be something that I see. — Fooloso4
... and is that one colour, or one each? — bongo fury
I think it's determined innately. — Manuel
Assuming everyone's senses are calibrated the same.. it's one color. — Outlander
Starmaking — Manuel
Dogs have cones, but do they have a "rainbow" of distinct colours? — bongo fury
Yes, paradoxical when set against his (seeming) eliminativism about mental entities (previous link). — bongo fury
Do you think the red type of internal sensation is determined innately, and/or independently of learning the word? — bongo fury
What I am seeing, — Fooloso4
what it looks like — Fooloso4
but this is as far as we can get. — Fooloso4
Your views have been found acceptable, and you are free to go. — bongo fury
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