I use the same measure across the board, the measure I was taught to use to assess risk and benefit for all my patients. — Book273
... best practice within the healthcare industry. — Book273
So outside of public policy — Book273
I move forward with what my patient wants, not tell them what they want, and offer them the best advice I can, — Book273
Where are you coming from? Just wondering. — Book273
No, there are already consequences promised to those who have not been vaccinated. For example, in order to visit a restaurant or cinema, one has to provide proof of vaccination, proof of having been diagnosed with covid, or a negative test. In some companies, all employees had to accept the vaccine, or risk being fired. Discrimination is already taking place. Also, there is limited choice or none as to which vaccine to take. There is also shortage of vaccine. And scandals with using used needles (in order to get the most out of one vial).But you do have the freedom not to go along if not the freedom not to be expected to go along. And of course not everyone will expect you to go along. To my knowledge vaccination is not mandatory in any democratic nations at least. I haven't checked to see if it is mandatory anywhere else; although I think I heard somewhere that it is in one part of Spain. — Janus
All covid vaccines are experimental medications at this point, so from the perspective of health insurance, they are treated as other experimental medications.About the health insurance angle: if that's true it's a bad sign and would seem to indicate that the insurance industry, who generally do very rigorously analyze and assess risk, must think there is a degree of risk that is unacceptable, to them at least.
I would have thought that working together to prevent the spread of a virus via masks and vaccination would mean that people will die in far fewer numbers.
The significant barriers to this are clearly the positions people hold on government and freedom and what counts as evidence. — Tom Storm
Depends on one's current health and financial status.No, but a probable personal catastrophe if one accepts the COVID vaccine.
— baker
Possible, yes. Probable, I don't know. — TheMadFool
You certainly don't sound like it. You're far too critical of others to still allow for the thought that you'd be willing to die for them.I am. — James Riley
You certainly don't sound like it. You're far too critical of others to still allow for the thought that you'd be willing to die for them. — baker
There is a difference between informed consent and uninformed consent. If the best advice you can give them is not to believe the science then they are properly informing them. What an uninformed patient wants should not be the deciding factor. — Fooloso4
And you want us to believe you'd die for these people? — baker
This is a philosophy discussion forum, not the water cooler. You're jumping to the conclusion that the notion of sacrificing oneself for others is "incomprehensible" to me. On the contrary, I want to explore what a proponent of it has to say about it.It is a little disconcerting that the notion is incomprehensible to many, such as yourself, but "disconcerting" is part of the deal too, so I'm comfortable with it. Back in the day it wasn't such an anomaly. — James Riley
And the only proper response to this is hysterical optimism and total faith in medicine? — baker
This is a philosophy discussion forum, not the water cooler. You're jumping to the conclusion that the notion of sacrificing oneself for others is "incomprehensible" to me. On the contrary, I want to explore what a proponent of it has to say about it. — baker
You're far too critical of others to still allow for the thought that you'd be willing to die for them. — baker
There is a difference between informed consent and uninformed consent. — Fooloso4
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