Who's that, then?
Tell me about him. — Banno
The thing about ethics, and it's something that pisses philosophers off, is that it is not what you say, but what you do, that is of relevance — Banno
The salient point in relation to the OP is that it is the really important stuff that can't be said — Banno
I'm asking if Wittgenstein's solipsist from the Tractatus even had a psychology? If he or she did, then what was it based on? — Shawn
No; it's what can't be said.
"Whereof on cannot speak..."
And this is why it is vital to refer to the text. — Banno
Now, you may ask why I gave such an importance and started a discussion on that statement-quote, namely "The limits of my language mean the limits of my world". Well, it's not the only one! There are a lot of statements-quotes by prominent philosophers that have been disputed over time. I leave them for some other discussion! :)
For the moment I would really like to hear your opinion on all this ... Thank you. — Alkis Piskas
All the logical devices - the detailed twiddles and manipulations of our language - combine, Wittgenstein tells us at 5.511, into an infinitely fine network, forming 'the great mirror' - that is to say, the mirror of language, whose logical character makes it reflect the world and makes its individual sentences say that such-and-such is the case. — Anscombe, G. E. M. An Introduction to Wittgenstein's Tractatus. 1971. G. E. M. Anscombe, pg. 164
Thus when the Tractatus tells us that 'Logic is transcendental', it does not mean that the propositions of logic state transcendental truths; it means that they, like all other propositions, shew something that pervades everything sayable and is itself unsayable. — Anscombe, G. E. M. An Introduction to Wittgenstein's Tractatus. 1971. G. E. M. Anscombe, pg. 166
So, it comes out that it is illegitimate to speak of 'an I'. 'From inside' means only 'as I know things'; I describe those things - something, however, I cannot communicate or express: I try to, by saying I speak 'from an inside point of view'. But there is no other point of view. Suppose others too speak of the 'inside point of view'? That is my experience of my supposition of spoken words. — Anscombe, G. E. M. An Introduction to Wittgenstein's Tractatus. 1971. G. E. M. Anscombe, pg. 166
Here we see that solipsism strictly carried out coincides with realism. The I in solipsism shrinks to an extensionless point and there remains the reality coordinated with it. — Anscombe, G. E. M. An Introduction to Wittgenstein's Tractatus. 1971. G. E. M. Anscombe, pg. 166
Think on that a bit. I've bolded the problematic word. In what way is the real world outside of language? Tell me about something which cannot be put into words. — Banno
Language isn't limited — Banno
The title phrase is not placing a limit on language, so much as on the world. — Banno
You really believe this? That language gives people all the tools to express everything inside themselves?? All your actual feelings you find language always appropriate to describe them? — dimosthenis9
...since human world (reality) is limited by his senses, then language follow this limitations also. — dimosthenis9
"My world" is small or large depending on what I do in the actual world, how many things I know about life, the actual world and the universe, how many things I have experienced and I am experiencing in my life. And then I can also add the following to "my world": my sufferings, my losses, my feelings in general, my consciousness, my ideas, my intelligence, my skills and abilities, ... All those are part of my world and are dependent only in part on my language. — Alkis Piskas
There's no benefit in imagining unexplainable things; of which this is oddly an example or not."The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" — Alkis Piskas
Those who speak do not know. Those who know do not speak — Lao Tzu
The limits of my language means the limits of my world — Ludwig Wittgenstein
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