Hatred and contempt bind people closer together than love, indeed. — baker
But they don't. In fact, the whole idea of covid vaccination is that one can "go back to normal" once vaccinated. — baker
I wasn't generalizing human nature. I'm saying that the people who do as described above (from aggressive drivers to employers who have their employees work in unsafe conditions) often happen to be the same people who are enthusiastically in favor of the covid vaccine. — baker
In fact, the whole idea of covid vaccination is that one can "go back to normal" once vaccinated. — baker
You mean like this?I was talking about the empathy and compassion that can come form facing adversity together, not hatred and contempt. — Janus
Do as I suggested and we can engage in the merits on anything you want. Until then, your a fascist, racists, inconsiderate, disrespectful, selfish person. — James Riley
But not in the popular social narrative. If people who are so enthusiastically in favor of covid vaccination would have really acknowledged what you're stating above, then whence their hatred and contempt for everyone who doesn't fall in line with their enthusiasm?Well, that advice was stupid from the start since it has also always been acknowledged that the vaccines are only about 90% effective.
But what isn't changing is the enthusiasm of the pro-vaccers, nor their hatred and their contempt.From that it follows that there can be no guarantee that you are not infectious even if vaccinated. That advice is already changing due to the extreme infectiousness of the Delta variant.
The point about altrusitic motives for vaccination was in the context of another discussion with other posters earlier in the thread who are on a crusade against those who aren't all that enthusiastic about covid vaccination. The argument of those crusaders is like the one I quoted in the beginning of this post. "If you don't get vaccinated, you're selfish" is one of their points.As to your road rage example, I haven't said that everyone gets vaccinated on account of altruistic motives, so it's not clear to me what you think you are arguing against there.
?You said earlier: "Nah. I doubt anyone in this whole thing really thinks of others. It's just politically correct to say one is doing it "for others". It makes for such good PR." and now you say
I wasn't generalizing human nature. I'm saying that the people who do as described above (from aggressive drivers to employers who have their employees work in unsafe conditions) often happen to be the same people who are enthusiastically in favor of the covid vaccine.
— baker
Can you not see that you are contradicting yourself and that the first statement is a generalization about human nature?
If all you're willing or able to do is engage in politically correct watercooler talk, then what on earth are you doing at a philosophy forum??! — baker
You mean like this? — baker
At pretty much any other forum you'd be banned for misrepresenting and attacking another poster like you do.
But, hey, Jesus loves you!!!!! — baker
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